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One reason I don't like that idea is that it creates hypocrites. I'd rather get thing like that out in the open since it may even be possible to convince some o

One reason I don't like that idea is that it creates hypocrites. I'd rather get thing like that out in the open since it may even be possible to convince some of those people that their beliefs are wrong but if you shame them into silence, you may not even have the chance to identify them.

angersock 12y ago
"you may not even have the chance to identify them." And if so, why is that a problem? If you never knew, why would it bother you?
- Dylan16807 12y ago
  Because if they're specifically hiding their racism in certain contexts they are probably still making harmful actions elsewhere.
  - mkr-hn 12y ago
    For example, donating to a hate-driven campaign to take fundamental rights away from people by popular vote. They could very easily say they donated from a basis different from the hateful people and avoid losing friends over a misunderstanding.
  - angersock 12y ago
    Everybody makes harmful actions every week, some minor some not. You should be able to identify them by a pattern of harmful actions. If you haven't observed their harmful actions or those supposed actions' effects, you're acting irrationally and going on witchhunts.
    - Dylan16807 12y ago
      >You should be able to identify them by a pattern of harmful actions. Not if they are specifically hiding those actions from people that would recognize them as harmful. >If you haven't observed their harmful actions or those supposed actions' effects, you're acting irrationally and going on witchhunts. I don't know why you're making a narrative about witch hunts. The original statement was that it's bad when people keep biases but don't discuss them anywhere they might be corrected. Denouncing hiding is pretty much the opposite of going on a witch hunt.
      - angersock 12y ago
        It's the part where, having not seen public evidence of the behavior, you are still concerned that somewhere at midnight vigils and seances they are practicing their evil racist ways, and that "Something be done!". Racism in and of itself is a quirk, and if you can't prove that others are actually harming people with it, you shouldn't begrudge other people their opinions--even if you don't like them.

angersock 12y ago

"you may not even have the chance to identify them." And if so, why is that a problem? If you never knew, why would it bother you?

Dylan16807 12y ago
Because if they're specifically hiding their racism in certain contexts they are probably still making harmful actions elsewhere.
- mkr-hn 12y ago
  For example, donating to a hate-driven campaign to take fundamental rights away from people by popular vote. They could very easily say they donated from a basis different from the hateful people and avoid losing friends over a misunderstanding.
- angersock 12y ago
  Everybody makes harmful actions every week, some minor some not. You should be able to identify them by a pattern of harmful actions. If you haven't observed their harmful actions or those supposed actions' effects, you're acting irrationally and going on witchhunts.
  - Dylan16807 12y ago
    >You should be able to identify them by a pattern of harmful actions. Not if they are specifically hiding those actions from people that would recognize them as harmful. >If you haven't observed their harmful actions or those supposed actions' effects, you're acting irrationally and going on witchhunts. I don't know why you're making a narrative about witch hunts. The original statement was that it's bad when people keep biases but don't discuss them anywhere they might be corrected. Denouncing hiding is pretty much the opposite of going on a witch hunt.
    - angersock 12y ago
      It's the part where, having not seen public evidence of the behavior, you are still concerned that somewhere at midnight vigils and seances they are practicing their evil racist ways, and that "Something be done!". Racism in and of itself is a quirk, and if you can't prove that others are actually harming people with it, you shouldn't begrudge other people their opinions--even if you don't like them.