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>Isn't Iran still backing numerous terrorist organizations, including Hezbolla source? >while proclaiming it their goal to essentially kill everyone in Israel

by ancap 12y ago

>Isn't Iran still backing numerous terrorist organizations, including Hezbolla source? >while proclaiming it their goal to essentially kill everyone in Israel? source?

adventured 12y ago
"Iranian Official Calls to 'Wipe Out the Zionist Regime'" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/190543 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/190543 "A chillingly detailed guide to "the proper way of eliminating Israel" – tweeted out by Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei – is threatening to throw nuclear talks with Tehran into chaos" http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twitter-plan/2014/11/10/id/606533/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twit... "Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran Re Hezbollah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah "Lebanon's Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah acknowledged Tuesday for the first time that his militant movement received financial and material support from Iran, but denied it took instructions from the Islamic Republic." http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-lebanon-hezbollah-idUSTRE81629H20120207 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-lebanon-hezboll... http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.637941 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.637... http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/hezbollah-ready-to-do-whatever-iran-asks-in-support-of-shadow-war-with-the-west-author-says/ http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/hezbollah-ready-to-d... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbollah.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbol...
- smnrchrds 12y ago
  Two points: 1. The twitter account does not really belong to Khamenei. There is no mention of it on his official website and no blue check-mark. 2. We all hate Ahmedinejad. He did a lot of things that ranged from awful, like destroying our economy, to stupid, like eliminating daylight saving time one year only to bring it back the next year, or merging two universities in the course of a week and changing his mind about it several months later. In addition to being stupid in his actions, he was stupid about what he said. You can say he had a bit of a faux pas problem, like a certain current US politician, but much worth. For example, after his first speech in UN general assembly, he was caught on tape saying that "I felt an aurora of light engulfing me as I gave my speech", apparently mistaking the spotlight with something more supernatural. For the whole 8 years, he was a living, talking, (and unfortunately) governing joke. We learned not to take a single word out of his mouth seriously early in his term. Quoting him regarding Iran's foreign policy is some sort of out-of-context quote or selection bias. He said a lot of stupid things. Don't take him seriously.
  - adventured 12y ago
    The Twitter account is a direct mouth piece for Khamenei. It's five years old, has almost 100k followers, Iran has never denied its legitimacy, and pretty much every major news outlet refers to it as being legitimate. It's beyond obvious that it is theirs. "The unverified Twitter account, widely accepted as the mouthpiece of the Ayatollah's social media campaign, often posts diatribes against the West and Israel to its more than 91,000 followers." http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/29/world/meast/ayatollah-tweet-abdelaziz/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/29/world/meast/ayatollah-tweet-ab... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/28/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twitter-michael-brown-shooting http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/28/ayatollah-ali-k...
  - pekk 12y ago
    No reason to hate Ahmedinejad more than the rest of the masks that Khamenei puts over his face. Mismanaging universities is a fine old tradition of the Revolution.
- ancap 12y ago
  None of your sources demonstrate a "goal to essentially kill everyone in Israel". In particular the "wiped off the map" Ahmadinejad quote has long been proven a mistranslation and yet is still pushed by the warmongers years after the fact. You stated (in rhetorical question form) that "Iran [is] still backing numerous terrorist organizations", yet your links only refer to Hezbollah. Where are the "numerous" organizations? Also it is pretty disingenuous to dismiss anything done by other countries. Hezbollah? They're small potatoes compared to the greatest terrorist organizations on earth, namely western militaries. If Hezbollah has killed 1000s the militaries of the west have easily killed 100x that.
  - adventured 12y ago
    Eliminating the "Zionist regime" would require destroying Israel. What do you suggest Iran's plan for doing that is, other than killing vast numbers of Israelis? When did I dismiss anything done by other countries? I didn't. You're not only misquoting me, but failing like so many others in this thread when it comes to logical separation. Because I say X, does not mean I also say Z or agree with Z or deny Z - if I say Iran is an oppressive theocracy, that does not mean I claim that Napoleon didn't do terrible things while invading Russia. Iran supports lots of terrorist organizations. They backed and financed terrorism against US targets in Iraq as one obvious example, but they're active all around the world and have been implicated in supporting terrorism in numerous countries. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/30/feds-say-irans-support-terrorism-growing/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/30/feds-say-ira... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terror... "In July 2012, The Times of India reported that New Delhi police have concluded that terrorists belonging to a branch of Iran’s military, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, were responsible for an attack on 13 February 2012, during which a bomb explosion targeted an Israeli diplomat in New Delhi, India, wounding one embassy staff member, a local employee, and two passers-by. According to the report, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards may have planned other attacks on Israeli targets around the world as well" "Iran supplies political support and weapons to Hamas,[14] an organization classified by Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union and Japan as a terrorist organization." "Iranian proxies killed an estimated 1,100 US troops in Iraq.[35] In addition, insurgents supported by Iran reportedly committed acts of terrorism" "Aggrey Adoli, Kenya's police chief in Kenya's coastal region, said on 22 June 2012 that two Iranians, Ahmad Abolfathi Mohammad and Sayed Mansour Mousavi, believed to members of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force,[39] were arrested and suspected of being involved in terrorism." http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362 http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362 http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2013/11/21-iran-terrorism-problem-beirut-bombing-byman http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2013/11/21-iran-... http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2012/209978.htm http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2012/209978.htm https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/html/pdf/Iran-Testimony-2-16-05.pdf https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/html/pdf/Iran-Testimony-...

by ancap 12y ago

>Isn't Iran still backing numerous terrorist organizations, including Hezbolla source? >while proclaiming it their goal to essentially kill everyone in Israel? source?

adventured 12y ago

"Iranian Official Calls to 'Wipe Out the Zionist Regime'" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/190543 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/190543 "A chillingly detailed guide to "the proper way of eliminating Israel" – tweeted out by Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei – is threatening to throw nuclear talks with Tehran into chaos" http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twitter-plan/2014/11/10/id/606533/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twit... "Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran Re Hezbollah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah "Lebanon's Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah acknowledged Tuesday for the first time that his militant movement received financial and material support from Iran, but denied it took instructions from the Islamic Republic." http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-lebanon-hezbollah-idUSTRE81629H20120207 http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-lebanon-hezboll... http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.637941 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.637... http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/hezbollah-ready-to-do-whatever-iran-asks-in-support-of-shadow-war-with-the-west-author-says/ http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/hezbollah-ready-to-d... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbollah.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbol...

smnrchrds 12y ago
Two points: 1. The twitter account does not really belong to Khamenei. There is no mention of it on his official website and no blue check-mark. 2. We all hate Ahmedinejad. He did a lot of things that ranged from awful, like destroying our economy, to stupid, like eliminating daylight saving time one year only to bring it back the next year, or merging two universities in the course of a week and changing his mind about it several months later. In addition to being stupid in his actions, he was stupid about what he said. You can say he had a bit of a faux pas problem, like a certain current US politician, but much worth. For example, after his first speech in UN general assembly, he was caught on tape saying that "I felt an aurora of light engulfing me as I gave my speech", apparently mistaking the spotlight with something more supernatural. For the whole 8 years, he was a living, talking, (and unfortunately) governing joke. We learned not to take a single word out of his mouth seriously early in his term. Quoting him regarding Iran's foreign policy is some sort of out-of-context quote or selection bias. He said a lot of stupid things. Don't take him seriously.
- adventured 12y ago
  The Twitter account is a direct mouth piece for Khamenei. It's five years old, has almost 100k followers, Iran has never denied its legitimacy, and pretty much every major news outlet refers to it as being legitimate. It's beyond obvious that it is theirs. "The unverified Twitter account, widely accepted as the mouthpiece of the Ayatollah's social media campaign, often posts diatribes against the West and Israel to its more than 91,000 followers." http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/29/world/meast/ayatollah-tweet-abdelaziz/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/29/world/meast/ayatollah-tweet-ab... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/28/ayatollah-ali-khamenei-twitter-michael-brown-shooting http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/28/ayatollah-ali-k...
- pekk 12y ago
  No reason to hate Ahmedinejad more than the rest of the masks that Khamenei puts over his face. Mismanaging universities is a fine old tradition of the Revolution.
ancap 12y ago
None of your sources demonstrate a "goal to essentially kill everyone in Israel". In particular the "wiped off the map" Ahmadinejad quote has long been proven a mistranslation and yet is still pushed by the warmongers years after the fact. You stated (in rhetorical question form) that "Iran [is] still backing numerous terrorist organizations", yet your links only refer to Hezbollah. Where are the "numerous" organizations? Also it is pretty disingenuous to dismiss anything done by other countries. Hezbollah? They're small potatoes compared to the greatest terrorist organizations on earth, namely western militaries. If Hezbollah has killed 1000s the militaries of the west have easily killed 100x that.
- adventured 12y ago
  Eliminating the "Zionist regime" would require destroying Israel. What do you suggest Iran's plan for doing that is, other than killing vast numbers of Israelis? When did I dismiss anything done by other countries? I didn't. You're not only misquoting me, but failing like so many others in this thread when it comes to logical separation. Because I say X, does not mean I also say Z or agree with Z or deny Z - if I say Iran is an oppressive theocracy, that does not mean I claim that Napoleon didn't do terrible things while invading Russia. Iran supports lots of terrorist organizations. They backed and financed terrorism against US targets in Iraq as one obvious example, but they're active all around the world and have been implicated in supporting terrorism in numerous countries. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/30/feds-say-irans-support-terrorism-growing/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/30/feds-say-ira... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terror... "In July 2012, The Times of India reported that New Delhi police have concluded that terrorists belonging to a branch of Iran’s military, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, were responsible for an attack on 13 February 2012, during which a bomb explosion targeted an Israeli diplomat in New Delhi, India, wounding one embassy staff member, a local employee, and two passers-by. According to the report, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards may have planned other attacks on Israeli targets around the world as well" "Iran supplies political support and weapons to Hamas,[14] an organization classified by Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union and Japan as a terrorist organization." "Iranian proxies killed an estimated 1,100 US troops in Iraq.[35] In addition, insurgents supported by Iran reportedly committed acts of terrorism" "Aggrey Adoli, Kenya's police chief in Kenya's coastal region, said on 22 June 2012 that two Iranians, Ahmad Abolfathi Mohammad and Sayed Mansour Mousavi, believed to members of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force,[39] were arrested and suspected of being involved in terrorism." http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362 http://www.cfr.org/iran/state-sponsors-iran/p9362 http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2013/11/21-iran-terrorism-problem-beirut-bombing-byman http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2013/11/21-iran-... http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2012/209978.htm http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2012/209978.htm https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/html/pdf/Iran-Testimony-2-16-05.pdf https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/html/pdf/Iran-Testimony-...