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Undeveloped Film from a Soldier in WWII Discovered and Processed

255 points by benbreen 12y ago

userbinator 12y ago
This makes me wonder if photos left on an SD card now would still be readable in 70 years... considering the relative fragility of modern flash memory (guaranteed retention specs are at less than a decade now), I'm not so optimistic.
- EToS 12y ago
  reading articles like this where SD cards have survived being boiled, trampled, washed and dunked in coffee or cola, makes me think its not impossible for certain SD cards stored in the right conditions to last possibly centuries http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3939333.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3939333.stm
  - DanBC 12y ago
    It's great they're so robust. That article is a bit irresonsible and might lead people to think they don't need a back up or an archive store.
- AshFurrow 12y ago
  The SD cards may hold the data that long, but I don't think it's likely that it will be accessible. To computer enthusiasts with legacy hardware/software maybe. I shoot on film and I know that even my negatives will eventually fade. Photography has taught me to enjoy life because everything eventually ends.
  - ars 12y ago
    > To computer enthusiasts with legacy hardware/software maybe. All you need is one person that can access it. Do you know of any technology that we can no longer access? They are lots of great stories about the hard work people had to do to access them (the video scans of the moon for example) but none that I know of that failed.
    - pdardeau 12y ago
      > All you need is one person that can access it. Do you know of any technology that we can no longer access? Technically, that's true. However, would it be economically feasible for the average person with ordinary family photos?
  - userbinator 12y ago
    SD cards are a simple serial interface that is well-documented at the block-device layer; the filesystem will likely be some variant of FAT, and I doubt the JPEG standard will be entirely forgotten, so while hardware like SD card readers may not be produced commercially anymore by then, anyone with the right knowledge can still make one. This is, of course, supposing that the rather scary situation of heavily-locked-down devices and completely-restricted access to knowledge has not occurred...
  - aaronbrethorst 12y ago
    Fwiw, a properly fixed, permawashed, and archival washed silver gelatin fiber print should outlast our grandchildren.
- skwirl 12y ago
  This is something I worry about regardless of the specific storage media type. I have all my photos on my hard drive backed up onto a two drive mirrored NAS device and uploaded to a third party cloud based backup service. Many of them also have low resolution versions posted on Facebook and Flickr. But I still worry that in 70 years no trace will be left of these photos. Printed photos sitting in a photo book with each photo in its own plastic sleeve that is stored in a dry location away from light won't last forever, but it will probably last 70 years. My digital photos have to constantly be backed up and copied over time. Cloud backup services and social media websites will go out of business. Both the drives in my NAS will eventually fail, along with the drive in my PC. For these photos to survive, someone has to perpetually do work to keep them around. Sometimes I wonder if, despite the fact that camera phones means we take an absolutely immense amount of pictures relative to other periods of time, if in 100 years there will be more photos from 1985-1995 than 2005-2015, just because the older photos were printed and stored in photo books. At some point I should probably print my most important photos.
  - Swizec 12y ago
    > Printed photos sitting in a photo book with each photo in its own plastic sleeve that is stored in a dry location away from light won't last forever, but it will probably last 70 years. Funny you should worry about 70 years when we have ink-on-paper things that have lasted hundreds of years and are still readable. According to this list of oldest surviving documents[1], preserved copies of a newspaper from 1609 exist. Oldest known book (but not sure if paper or not) is over 900 years old. So yeah, barring direct physical damage, 70 years is nothing. [1] http://listverse.com/2013/11/10/10-oldest-surviving-documents-of-their-type-in-the-world-2/ http://listverse.com/2013/11/10/10-oldest-surviving-document...
- lmm 12y ago
  How long was the "guaranteed spec" on this film, do you think? SD cards easily survive the kind of rough handling that would destroy a film; I can imagine the contacts corroding to the point where you'd have to replace them to read it, but the plastic casing is close to indestructible, and the stored data should be inert. Of course many will be lost or destroyed, but I would happily bet on any random SD card outlasting any random piece of film from the same era.
- pjc50 12y ago
  Never mind robustness, they're horribly easy to lose. I put a blank microSD card on my coffee table the other day and lost it instantly. Re: photos, I think that long term security requires long term care, prioritisation of the important few for printed copies, and reviewing every few years. All of which take time and effort. :(
delinka 12y ago
The overlapped images: are these simply because the film didn't wind a fill frame? Also: "Copyright of All Images On This Website is Owned By The Rescued Film Project." I have doubts about this statement. Can someone with more expertise in this matter explain? It seems to me that the photographer holds the copyright unless the copyright was properly transferred. Simple discovering the film and processing it does not a copyright holder make. EDIT: there form for donating unprocessed film contains the following: "By donating your rescued film to The Rescued Film Project […] you agree to release full print and publish copyright of all images recovered from the film to The Rescued Film Project and it’s proprietor(s)." This suggests to me that someone else may have obtained and donated the film to TRFP.
- jacquesm 12y ago
  > I have doubts about this statement. Can someone with more expertise in this matter explain? It seems to me that the photographer holds the copyright unless the copyright was properly transferred. Simple discovering the film and processing it does not a copyright holder make. I'd say you are 100% in the right here, the problem will be to find the person or their heirs to assert their claim. I definitely do not think that finding the film is enough to stake a claim this broad. see: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-monkey-selfie-copyright-20140821-story.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-monkey-self... Which has an interesting take on images with doubtful copyright status (selfie taken by a monkey, owner of the camera tried to assert copyright). Thinking about it a bit more, if the original maker of the images or their heirs were to be nasty they could likely file for infringement of their rights. Personally I think what the guy did was great, they're amazing images but asserting copyright goes one step too far. Maybe his argument is that by buying the film he owns the rights? Edit: another relevant bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier Heading 'legal challenge'.
  - delinka 12y ago
    "Personally I think what the guy did was great..." Indeed. I'm glad we now have this additional snapshot of history. And I'd be happy to donate to cover some costs here. But I'm also wary of the copyright claim such that my donation would be contingent on clarifying the claim-- provide an explanation as to how copyright was obtained; step the notice down a bit; etc
ncza 12y ago
Direct link instead of "relevant third-party content rehosted in a company blog": http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ http://www.rescuedfilm.com/
TomGullen 12y ago
Great project, and fascinating to see them: http://www.rescuedfilm.com/#!rescuedwwii/c1d05 http://www.rescuedfilm.com/#!rescuedwwii/c1d05 What I like about them is they are obviously taken by an amateur (I don't profess to be any good myself!). Things like wonky horizon lines stand out to me and help bring a bit more or a human connection to these photos and events depicted I otherwise feel quite disconnected from. They remind me of photos for example my family and friends take on holiday, and make me realise it's just pure luck that it wasn't me, my family or friends who found ourselves in those difficult years.
rquantz 12y ago
Yay Hacker News. Top thread: what is the legality of who owns this film? Second thread: debating the longevity of flash memory. Third thread (no responses): direct link to content. Last thread (no replies): the only person who directly engages with the content of the linked article even remotely.
- wingerlang 12y ago
  I really don't understand these comments pointing this out. Generally these "issues" tend to iron themselves out after some time. Now you could add "One comment completely ignoring the topic at hand" (referring to your comment).
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- insin 12y ago
  And one thread saying exactly what I was thinking.
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markbnj 12y ago
I've read about this project before. This isn't the first collection of film from a soldier's belongings that he has located. The most melancholy thought, for me, is that there is likely only one reason why the images were never developed by their creator.
- whizzkid 12y ago
  ..Which makes the story more interesting actually. I wonder if he had had any chance to write down his plan/thought of his journey while taking photos. Another interesting part is, how they saved the rolls during the war, how it is transferred back to USA..
  - yaddayadda 12y ago
    > how they saved the rolls during the war, how it is transferred back to USA If he was killed or seriously injured in action, then any possessions he had with him would have been returned to his family in the U.S.
    - markbnj 12y ago
      Exactly. There was one specific case I recall where a duffle was found in the corner of an attic, unopened, and contained a soldier's belongins and a number of film rolls. I could only imagine the emotions that had driven the person who tossed the bag, unexamined, up into an attic and left it there for decades.
- foobarian 12y ago
  For me those photos really help breathe life into that period of time, making it appear as more than just a series of abstract Wikipedia articles. Look at the contrast of those soldiers waiting next to a railroad against the fine architecture of the downtown. Today some of those folks are someone's feeble old grandpa telling stories of the old days, but look at how young and full of life they were in those pictures. I'm a little disappointed that the top comment chain consists of belaboring the finer points of copyright statutes.
- 12y ago
coldtea 12y ago
I think this is artistically fitting to the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwC8ETa0pg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwC8ETa0pg
dghughes 12y ago
Hey! I know that clicky clicky sound well as you ratchet on the film onto the wheel I even have a similar style developer tank only a bit smaller. I really miss doing that it's been I get 20 years since I've developed any film it's amazing how time flies. Digital photography just doesn't have the soul of actual film photography it's missing the physical connection. Although I don't miss the stink of the fixer. It's 120 rollfim too for medium a format camera which would give a nice image since it quite a bit larger and has more surface area than a 35mm negative. For such old film I figured this would have been done in a lab not in a kitchen I'd be concerned with water temperature with such old film. Maybe even soak the film in water to let it hydrate a bit maybe since he indicate they rolls may stick they've been rolled up for so long. I do wish I had a better method to scan my old negatives and skip the printing part I did try it without much success in the mid 1990s with my first flatbed scanner. Interesting stuff! It makes me want to pick up the old cameras again.
- sharkweek 12y ago
  I know this sounds a bit "get off my lawn" even for only being in my late 20s, but I REALLY enjoyed darkroom time in high school photography classes and photography personally lost some of its magic to me when I switched. I was a senior just as digital was making its moves, but nothing was quite as satisfying as the trials and tribulations of meticulously processing film in that tiny little room. Nothing quite as cool as dropping what seemed like a blank piece of paper into some chemicals and watching it transition into an actual photograph.
  - aaronbrethorst 12y ago
    I'm 32, re-discovered film photography only about 12 months ago, and almost exclusively shoot film today. You should check out a website I built a couple months ago that has a fairly extensive list of public darkrooms and photo labs that can still process film: http://www.ishootfilm.org/businesses http://www.ishootfilm.org/businesses.
  - ghaff 12y ago
    Yeah, on the other hand, I never had easy access to a good darkroom after leaving school and pretty much ended up shooting color slides for a number of years--which meant, in practice, that I pretty much just shot slides on some vacations. The combination of digital photography and the ease of sharing really got me back into doing photography as a more routine thing. And the capabilities of modern digital gear are just so amazing. I still remember all the chemical manipulations I would go through to get decent results from B&W at ISO 1600 or maybe a little faster. Today, I can easily surpass that in color with the twist of a dial.
jordanpg 12y ago
The recovery of these images is a great story to be sure, but the WWII photos remind me of the kind of photos that I usually take: terrible ones. Mostly just pictures of uninspired landscapes, buildings, and nondescript groups of people. Glad to know that ineptitude with a camera began long before they became ubiquitous.
- shawn-butler 12y ago
  The shot of the men at the railroad tracks waiting is universal. Another 500 years will pass and soldiers will still be waiting in line for something or other.
  - bdunbar 12y ago
    Waiting for chow, waiting for a range, waiting for the trucks to come back .. and waiting .. and waiting .. but nobody told any _drivers_ they needed to make a second run to pick up twenty marines and a small mountain of gear. Then it started raining. Too bad the tents were in the first load.
CamperBob2 12y ago
Irony: Site called "petapixel.com" posts images in glorious 1989-era VGA resolution. As someone else mentioned, these images were basically stolen from http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ , where they can be viewed at higher quality.
jdnier 12y ago
It pains me to see him unwrapping paper-backed rolls of film in room light, then using a strobe to document the appearance of the the roll (before developing). The fogging you see at the top and bottom edges of some rolls is from light leaking around the edges of loosely-rolled spools; it happens even with modern 120 roll film. There's a good chance he's fogging some of the rolls due to his handling.
- Amarandei 12y ago
  I was actually watching him do that and I was thinking the same thing. I don't know anything about developing but I was thinking that if the casing has even a tiny crack then the camera flash would ruin at least one photo. The nice thing to do would be to send him a friendly email and tell him about it. Maybe he just doesn't realize it.

255 points by benbreen 12y ago

This makes me wonder if photos left on an SD card now would still be readable in 70 years... considering the relative fragility of modern flash memory (guaranteed retention specs are at less than a decade now), I'm not so optimistic.

EToS 12y ago
reading articles like this where SD cards have survived being boiled, trampled, washed and dunked in coffee or cola, makes me think its not impossible for certain SD cards stored in the right conditions to last possibly centuries http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3939333.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3939333.stm
- DanBC 12y ago
  It's great they're so robust. That article is a bit irresonsible and might lead people to think they don't need a back up or an archive store.
AshFurrow 12y ago
The SD cards may hold the data that long, but I don't think it's likely that it will be accessible. To computer enthusiasts with legacy hardware/software maybe. I shoot on film and I know that even my negatives will eventually fade. Photography has taught me to enjoy life because everything eventually ends.
- ars 12y ago
  > To computer enthusiasts with legacy hardware/software maybe. All you need is one person that can access it. Do you know of any technology that we can no longer access? They are lots of great stories about the hard work people had to do to access them (the video scans of the moon for example) but none that I know of that failed.
  - pdardeau 12y ago
    > All you need is one person that can access it. Do you know of any technology that we can no longer access? Technically, that's true. However, would it be economically feasible for the average person with ordinary family photos?
- userbinator 12y ago
  SD cards are a simple serial interface that is well-documented at the block-device layer; the filesystem will likely be some variant of FAT, and I doubt the JPEG standard will be entirely forgotten, so while hardware like SD card readers may not be produced commercially anymore by then, anyone with the right knowledge can still make one. This is, of course, supposing that the rather scary situation of heavily-locked-down devices and completely-restricted access to knowledge has not occurred...
- aaronbrethorst 12y ago
  Fwiw, a properly fixed, permawashed, and archival washed silver gelatin fiber print should outlast our grandchildren.
skwirl 12y ago
This is something I worry about regardless of the specific storage media type. I have all my photos on my hard drive backed up onto a two drive mirrored NAS device and uploaded to a third party cloud based backup service. Many of them also have low resolution versions posted on Facebook and Flickr. But I still worry that in 70 years no trace will be left of these photos. Printed photos sitting in a photo book with each photo in its own plastic sleeve that is stored in a dry location away from light won't last forever, but it will probably last 70 years. My digital photos have to constantly be backed up and copied over time. Cloud backup services and social media websites will go out of business. Both the drives in my NAS will eventually fail, along with the drive in my PC. For these photos to survive, someone has to perpetually do work to keep them around. Sometimes I wonder if, despite the fact that camera phones means we take an absolutely immense amount of pictures relative to other periods of time, if in 100 years there will be more photos from 1985-1995 than 2005-2015, just because the older photos were printed and stored in photo books. At some point I should probably print my most important photos.
- Swizec 12y ago
  > Printed photos sitting in a photo book with each photo in its own plastic sleeve that is stored in a dry location away from light won't last forever, but it will probably last 70 years. Funny you should worry about 70 years when we have ink-on-paper things that have lasted hundreds of years and are still readable. According to this list of oldest surviving documents[1], preserved copies of a newspaper from 1609 exist. Oldest known book (but not sure if paper or not) is over 900 years old. So yeah, barring direct physical damage, 70 years is nothing. [1] http://listverse.com/2013/11/10/10-oldest-surviving-documents-of-their-type-in-the-world-2/ http://listverse.com/2013/11/10/10-oldest-surviving-document...
lmm 12y ago
How long was the "guaranteed spec" on this film, do you think? SD cards easily survive the kind of rough handling that would destroy a film; I can imagine the contacts corroding to the point where you'd have to replace them to read it, but the plastic casing is close to indestructible, and the stored data should be inert. Of course many will be lost or destroyed, but I would happily bet on any random SD card outlasting any random piece of film from the same era.
pjc50 12y ago
Never mind robustness, they're horribly easy to lose. I put a blank microSD card on my coffee table the other day and lost it instantly. Re: photos, I think that long term security requires long term care, prioritisation of the important few for printed copies, and reviewing every few years. All of which take time and effort. :(

delinka 12y ago

The overlapped images: are these simply because the film didn't wind a fill frame? Also: "Copyright of All Images On This Website is Owned By The Rescued Film Project." I have doubts about this statement. Can someone with more expertise in this matter explain? It seems to me that the photographer holds the copyright unless the copyright was properly transferred. Simple discovering the film and processing it does not a copyright holder make. EDIT: there form for donating unprocessed film contains the following: "By donating your rescued film to The Rescued Film Project […] you agree to release full print and publish copyright of all images recovered from the film to The Rescued Film Project and it’s proprietor(s)." This suggests to me that someone else may have obtained and donated the film to TRFP.

jacquesm 12y ago
> I have doubts about this statement. Can someone with more expertise in this matter explain? It seems to me that the photographer holds the copyright unless the copyright was properly transferred. Simple discovering the film and processing it does not a copyright holder make. I'd say you are 100% in the right here, the problem will be to find the person or their heirs to assert their claim. I definitely do not think that finding the film is enough to stake a claim this broad. see: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-monkey-selfie-copyright-20140821-story.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-monkey-self... Which has an interesting take on images with doubtful copyright status (selfie taken by a monkey, owner of the camera tried to assert copyright). Thinking about it a bit more, if the original maker of the images or their heirs were to be nasty they could likely file for infringement of their rights. Personally I think what the guy did was great, they're amazing images but asserting copyright goes one step too far. Maybe his argument is that by buying the film he owns the rights? Edit: another relevant bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Maier Heading 'legal challenge'.
- delinka 12y ago
  "Personally I think what the guy did was great..." Indeed. I'm glad we now have this additional snapshot of history. And I'd be happy to donate to cover some costs here. But I'm also wary of the copyright claim such that my donation would be contingent on clarifying the claim-- provide an explanation as to how copyright was obtained; step the notice down a bit; etc

ncza 12y ago

Direct link instead of "relevant third-party content rehosted in a company blog": http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ http://www.rescuedfilm.com/

TomGullen 12y ago

Great project, and fascinating to see them: http://www.rescuedfilm.com/#!rescuedwwii/c1d05 http://www.rescuedfilm.com/#!rescuedwwii/c1d05 What I like about them is they are obviously taken by an amateur (I don't profess to be any good myself!). Things like wonky horizon lines stand out to me and help bring a bit more or a human connection to these photos and events depicted I otherwise feel quite disconnected from. They remind me of photos for example my family and friends take on holiday, and make me realise it's just pure luck that it wasn't me, my family or friends who found ourselves in those difficult years.

rquantz 12y ago

Yay Hacker News. Top thread: what is the legality of who owns this film? Second thread: debating the longevity of flash memory. Third thread (no responses): direct link to content. Last thread (no replies): the only person who directly engages with the content of the linked article even remotely.

wingerlang 12y ago
I really don't understand these comments pointing this out. Generally these "issues" tend to iron themselves out after some time. Now you could add "One comment completely ignoring the topic at hand" (referring to your comment).
- deleted 12y ago
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insin 12y ago
And one thread saying exactly what I was thinking.

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markbnj 12y ago

I've read about this project before. This isn't the first collection of film from a soldier's belongings that he has located. The most melancholy thought, for me, is that there is likely only one reason why the images were never developed by their creator.

whizzkid 12y ago
..Which makes the story more interesting actually. I wonder if he had had any chance to write down his plan/thought of his journey while taking photos. Another interesting part is, how they saved the rolls during the war, how it is transferred back to USA..
- yaddayadda 12y ago
  > how they saved the rolls during the war, how it is transferred back to USA If he was killed or seriously injured in action, then any possessions he had with him would have been returned to his family in the U.S.
  - markbnj 12y ago
    Exactly. There was one specific case I recall where a duffle was found in the corner of an attic, unopened, and contained a soldier's belongins and a number of film rolls. I could only imagine the emotions that had driven the person who tossed the bag, unexamined, up into an attic and left it there for decades.
foobarian 12y ago
For me those photos really help breathe life into that period of time, making it appear as more than just a series of abstract Wikipedia articles. Look at the contrast of those soldiers waiting next to a railroad against the fine architecture of the downtown. Today some of those folks are someone's feeble old grandpa telling stories of the old days, but look at how young and full of life they were in those pictures. I'm a little disappointed that the top comment chain consists of belaboring the finer points of copyright statutes.
12y ago

coldtea 12y ago

I think this is artistically fitting to the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwC8ETa0pg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwC8ETa0pg

dghughes 12y ago

Hey! I know that clicky clicky sound well as you ratchet on the film onto the wheel I even have a similar style developer tank only a bit smaller. I really miss doing that it's been I get 20 years since I've developed any film it's amazing how time flies. Digital photography just doesn't have the soul of actual film photography it's missing the physical connection. Although I don't miss the stink of the fixer. It's 120 rollfim too for medium a format camera which would give a nice image since it quite a bit larger and has more surface area than a 35mm negative. For such old film I figured this would have been done in a lab not in a kitchen I'd be concerned with water temperature with such old film. Maybe even soak the film in water to let it hydrate a bit maybe since he indicate they rolls may stick they've been rolled up for so long. I do wish I had a better method to scan my old negatives and skip the printing part I did try it without much success in the mid 1990s with my first flatbed scanner. Interesting stuff! It makes me want to pick up the old cameras again.

sharkweek 12y ago
I know this sounds a bit "get off my lawn" even for only being in my late 20s, but I REALLY enjoyed darkroom time in high school photography classes and photography personally lost some of its magic to me when I switched. I was a senior just as digital was making its moves, but nothing was quite as satisfying as the trials and tribulations of meticulously processing film in that tiny little room. Nothing quite as cool as dropping what seemed like a blank piece of paper into some chemicals and watching it transition into an actual photograph.
- aaronbrethorst 12y ago
  I'm 32, re-discovered film photography only about 12 months ago, and almost exclusively shoot film today. You should check out a website I built a couple months ago that has a fairly extensive list of public darkrooms and photo labs that can still process film: http://www.ishootfilm.org/businesses http://www.ishootfilm.org/businesses.
- ghaff 12y ago
  Yeah, on the other hand, I never had easy access to a good darkroom after leaving school and pretty much ended up shooting color slides for a number of years--which meant, in practice, that I pretty much just shot slides on some vacations. The combination of digital photography and the ease of sharing really got me back into doing photography as a more routine thing. And the capabilities of modern digital gear are just so amazing. I still remember all the chemical manipulations I would go through to get decent results from B&W at ISO 1600 or maybe a little faster. Today, I can easily surpass that in color with the twist of a dial.

jordanpg 12y ago

The recovery of these images is a great story to be sure, but the WWII photos remind me of the kind of photos that I usually take: terrible ones. Mostly just pictures of uninspired landscapes, buildings, and nondescript groups of people. Glad to know that ineptitude with a camera began long before they became ubiquitous.

shawn-butler 12y ago
The shot of the men at the railroad tracks waiting is universal. Another 500 years will pass and soldiers will still be waiting in line for something or other.
- bdunbar 12y ago
  Waiting for chow, waiting for a range, waiting for the trucks to come back .. and waiting .. and waiting .. but nobody told any _drivers_ they needed to make a second run to pick up twenty marines and a small mountain of gear. Then it started raining. Too bad the tents were in the first load.

CamperBob2 12y ago

Irony: Site called "petapixel.com" posts images in glorious 1989-era VGA resolution. As someone else mentioned, these images were basically stolen from http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ http://www.rescuedfilm.com/ , where they can be viewed at higher quality.

jdnier 12y ago

It pains me to see him unwrapping paper-backed rolls of film in room light, then using a strobe to document the appearance of the the roll (before developing). The fogging you see at the top and bottom edges of some rolls is from light leaking around the edges of loosely-rolled spools; it happens even with modern 120 roll film. There's a good chance he's fogging some of the rolls due to his handling.

Amarandei 12y ago
I was actually watching him do that and I was thinking the same thing. I don't know anything about developing but I was thinking that if the casing has even a tiny crack then the camera flash would ruin at least one photo. The nice thing to do would be to send him a friendly email and tell him about it. Maybe he just doesn't realize it.