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>Most of the people that now live here have ancestors that followed the rules as my ancestors did. This is something of a myth. With the exception of immigrant
by GabrielF00 12y ago
>Most of the people that now live here have ancestors that followed the rules as my ancestors did.
This is something of a myth. With the exception of immigrants from China, who were barred by the United States starting in 1880, there really was no such thing as an illegal immigrant until the 1920s. To suggest that one's own ancestors played by the rules, so why can't the current generation of immigrants, is to ignore the fact that the rules at that time were completely different. Given that many of our ancestors came from pretty desperate circumstances, it's entirely likely that many of them would have immigrated illegally, had the laws of that era been analogous to our laws today.
>those that have broken American laws getting subsidized college education costs such as in-state tuition and other monies. In other words, you have people who are not American citizens getting in-state tuition rates that are not available to American citizens who grew up in other states.
This seems to hold children responsible for actions that were taken by their parents, when they were minors. Would you really accuse a 2 year-old of breaking the law if they were brought into the country illegally?
Further, in-state tuition is a benefit to taxpayers of a given state, and it provides opportunities for residents of that state to develop skills without having to go elsewhere. I don't see why someone who has never lived in state X has a claim to in-state tuition at X-State University, based only on their American citizenship. I do see a case for providing in-state tuition for someone who grew up in that state, went to high school there, and was the child of taxpayers, regardless of their educational status.
- seanmcdirmid 12y agoThere was a lot of discrimination against non-white immigrants in the latter 19th century, not just Chinese (officially coded into law, of course), but Africans, Mexicans and Central Americans of obvious Indian descent. You could easily immigrate to the US...if you were white.
- davidf18 12y agoPerhaps you've heard of the ship the MS St. Louis that in 1939 with 915 Jewish refugees from Germany that was denied entry into the US with an estimated 1/4 eventually dying in concentration camps. It was made into a book and a movie, "Voyage of the Damned" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075406/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075406/ I'm sorry but I believe that people who are not in the US legally should not be going to our universities, let alone receive financial subsidies. They should apply as citizens of the country that they are citizens of just as anyone else who is not a US citizen and be subject to the same set of rules. Universities, esp. state ones with lower in-state tuition costs have limited number of spots that should go to residents of the state. For every person who is not in the US legally that you admit into the state university at in-state prices, you are depriving someone who is a citizen and a member of the state. Completely unfair!