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Speed's nice, but get the price-per-terabyte down, I beg you.

by NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago

cpncrunch 12y ago
It has come down by about 50% in the last year.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
  http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1T0BW/dp/B00E3W16OU/ http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1... $422. I've been looking at this same one for about a year. It's slightly lower than it was at first, I think it was $470 or so. I need it to be about $100. I'll buy one per month at that price. But at $422 for a terabyte, it's not that useful to me.
  - reaperhulk 12y ago
    http://camelcamelcamel.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1T0BW/product/B00E3W16OU http://camelcamelcamel.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ... Looks like it has dropped less than $100 in the last year, but came down very swiftly in the few months it was on the market before that.
  - tw04 12y ago
    That one will never get there. This might get close: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147374 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147... But you'll likely have to wait one more generation.
rasz_pl 12y ago
Speed's nice, price-per-terabyte is important, but do something about endurance and how it acts when it dies. I want my drive to tell me "x and Y is broken, only Z is available, read your data before I die" instead of simply VANISHING from my system on next power up like EVERY FRICKIN SSD does right now (even ones promising read only failure mode like Intel).
- moe 12y ago
  Any electronics device can die at any moment without a chance to tell you anything. That's why you have to make backups and run your disks in a RAID.
  - rasz_pl 12y ago
    Yes, any electronic device can die, thats normal. What is not normal is SSD drive going dark just because there was a SMALL corruption on one of critical flash cells (usually caused by firmware error, or power loss or wear). Its quite rare for magnetic drive to die because of few bad sectors, on the other hand it seems to be a standard failure mode on all SSDs on the market.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
  My operating system files churn as much as anyone, but I don't intend to use SSDs for files that will be written and rewritten. I'll use it for the stuff that I want to write once and keep for 30 years. I have terabytes of such, already.
  - rasz_pl 12y ago
    SSD is not for you then, data retention is very poor (single digit years, or few months until read speed degrades in case of Samsung 840 :P). Whats more mere reading degrades flash, current SSDs keep a log of how many times sector has been read, and reallocate that sector when it triggers because read operations upset stored values.

Speed's nice, but get the price-per-terabyte down, I beg you.

cpncrunch 12y ago

It has come down by about 50% in the last year.

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1T0BW/dp/B00E3W16OU/ http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1... $422. I've been looking at this same one for about a year. It's slightly lower than it was at first, I think it was $470 or so. I need it to be about $100. I'll buy one per month at that price. But at $422 for a terabyte, it's not that useful to me.
- reaperhulk 12y ago
  http://camelcamelcamel.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-7TE1T0BW/product/B00E3W16OU http://camelcamelcamel.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ... Looks like it has dropped less than $100 in the last year, but came down very swiftly in the few months it was on the market before that.
- tw04 12y ago
  That one will never get there. This might get close: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147374 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147... But you'll likely have to wait one more generation.

rasz_pl 12y ago

Speed's nice, price-per-terabyte is important, but do something about endurance and how it acts when it dies. I want my drive to tell me "x and Y is broken, only Z is available, read your data before I die" instead of simply VANISHING from my system on next power up like EVERY FRICKIN SSD does right now (even ones promising read only failure mode like Intel).

moe 12y ago
Any electronics device can die at any moment without a chance to tell you anything. That's why you have to make backups and run your disks in a RAID.
- rasz_pl 12y ago
  Yes, any electronic device can die, thats normal. What is not normal is SSD drive going dark just because there was a SMALL corruption on one of critical flash cells (usually caused by firmware error, or power loss or wear). Its quite rare for magnetic drive to die because of few bad sectors, on the other hand it seems to be a standard failure mode on all SSDs on the market.
NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
My operating system files churn as much as anyone, but I don't intend to use SSDs for files that will be written and rewritten. I'll use it for the stuff that I want to write once and keep for 30 years. I have terabytes of such, already.
- rasz_pl 12y ago
  SSD is not for you then, data retention is very poor (single digit years, or few months until read speed degrades in case of Samsung 840 :P). Whats more mere reading degrades flash, current SSDs keep a log of how many times sector has been read, and reallocate that sector when it triggers because read operations upset stored values.