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This argument seems at odds with the claim that suicide constitutes the majority of the deaths.

• ta75757 12y ago
  How so?
  • vor_ 12y ago
    I believe the point is that if the chance of suicide is very small, and the mentally ill are forbidden from owning guns, it would seemingly be at odds with the claim that "over half of all quoted gun deaths" are suicides.
    • ta75757 12y ago
      I don't see the direct connection between the suicide risk of a single gun owner and the ratio of suicide to homicide in total gun deaths. The claim regarding suicide vs homicide is easy to confirm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...). It is not possible to predict every suicide, the best we can do is make an approximation using obvious risk factors like hospitalization for mental illness. There are millions of gun owners in the US, so yes the chance of a suicide is small.
    • FeeTinesAMady 12y ago
      How is it at odds with that? That is a fact, not an opinion. It's true that over half of all quoted gun deaths are suicides, and it's true that the chance of suicide is very small. The great majority of gun owners don't commit suicide. There's no contradiction.
• danielweber 12y ago
  EDIT Even though most gun deaths are suicide [1], your odds of killing yourself via suicide are still low. There's slightly less than 1% chance of your life ending via suicide. Taking away guns to stop suicides is a pretty big NNT. === [1] Accidental discharge: 591 Suicide by firearm: 19,990 Assault by firearm: 11,068 Unknown involving firearms: 248 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf