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Glad they smartened up, I ordered a top of the line one last year, opened the box... spent 15 minutes swearing as I packed it back up to send it back. I have b

Glad they smartened up, I ordered a top of the line one last year, opened the box... spent 15 minutes swearing as I packed it back up to send it back. I have been a Mac guy since 2008, I wanted to get off the apple train and get a Lenovo as I loved Lenovo... only to find myself sitting here with another mac. Replacing F1 keys with a touch bar? Really? Losing the Caps lock? No clue what they were thinking.

coherentpony 12y ago
You actually use your caps lock key? I can't remember the last time I used mine and since I was never a Sun guy, I don't even bind it to Ctrl. Not being snarky, just curious.
- beachstartup 12y ago
  i use the caps lock key all the time (though you wouldn't know it reading my HN comments...) any time i need to type more than 3 capital letters in a row, i hit caps lock. i type at 140+ wpm so holding down shift while typing reduces my speed by a significant amount. it's easier to hit caps lock and then hit it again when i'm done. it doesn't take any time. examples of needing caps lock: $LONG_VARIABLE_OR_CONST_NAMES LABELS IN DIAGRAMS AND CODE: 3. CERTAIN FORMS LIKE PURCHASE ORDERS AND INVOICES ARE TRADITIONALLY IN ALL CAPS (QTY 2) IMPORTANT NOTES IN MEMOS!!! to myself and others i use it at least a half dozen times a day.
- rinon 12y ago
  If you are used to binding caps lock to ctrl, the lack of that key is critical. I find it hard to do anything serious on machines without it now...
  - coherentpony 12y ago
    That's fair. I was assuming the parent commenter implied he or she used their caps lock key for its designed purpose, which in hindsight was perhaps an erroneous assumption.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    I swap my left alt and ctrl keys to get anything done, mainly because I ctrl a lot and its useful to do that with my thumb. I can't imagine using caps for it, it is in such a bad position for frequent use.
- vacri 12y ago
  I find Caps Lock quite useful - about half the time when I have login problems, a simple tap on Caps Lock key fixes the issue...
thenipper 12y ago
Seriously. I have one of these at work.. the keyboard even after almost a year is unusable.
- przemoc 12y ago
  I bought my T430 (N1T56PB) on August 2013. 10 months later "Tab" key fell off. 2 months later "A" key fell off and few months ago another one - "S". Currently "E" is the one that behaves a bit differently and surely will be the next one to fall off. At the beginning I thought that these islandish keyboards aren't that bad, but after a year I'm sure they are total crap, which shouldn't be put in stuff that costs $1500+. Previously I owned R61 (NF55WPB), which was surely lower-end laptop and I didn't have any problems with keyboard for 3 years that I spent using it (until NVS140m exhibited its factory problem and I have no longer seen anything on the screen).
  - ballstothewalls 12y ago
    I think the keyboard on my T430s is the best keyboard I have ever used. It feels perfect to use. I love it and I get annoyed with anyone else's laptop. I haven't had any of your problems.

coherentpony 12y ago

You actually use your caps lock key? I can't remember the last time I used mine and since I was never a Sun guy, I don't even bind it to Ctrl. Not being snarky, just curious.

beachstartup 12y ago
i use the caps lock key all the time (though you wouldn't know it reading my HN comments...) any time i need to type more than 3 capital letters in a row, i hit caps lock. i type at 140+ wpm so holding down shift while typing reduces my speed by a significant amount. it's easier to hit caps lock and then hit it again when i'm done. it doesn't take any time. examples of needing caps lock: $LONG_VARIABLE_OR_CONST_NAMES LABELS IN DIAGRAMS AND CODE: 3. CERTAIN FORMS LIKE PURCHASE ORDERS AND INVOICES ARE TRADITIONALLY IN ALL CAPS (QTY 2) IMPORTANT NOTES IN MEMOS!!! to myself and others i use it at least a half dozen times a day.
rinon 12y ago
If you are used to binding caps lock to ctrl, the lack of that key is critical. I find it hard to do anything serious on machines without it now...
- coherentpony 12y ago
  That's fair. I was assuming the parent commenter implied he or she used their caps lock key for its designed purpose, which in hindsight was perhaps an erroneous assumption.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  I swap my left alt and ctrl keys to get anything done, mainly because I ctrl a lot and its useful to do that with my thumb. I can't imagine using caps for it, it is in such a bad position for frequent use.
vacri 12y ago
I find Caps Lock quite useful - about half the time when I have login problems, a simple tap on Caps Lock key fixes the issue...

thenipper 12y ago

Seriously. I have one of these at work.. the keyboard even after almost a year is unusable.

przemoc 12y ago
I bought my T430 (N1T56PB) on August 2013. 10 months later "Tab" key fell off. 2 months later "A" key fell off and few months ago another one - "S". Currently "E" is the one that behaves a bit differently and surely will be the next one to fall off. At the beginning I thought that these islandish keyboards aren't that bad, but after a year I'm sure they are total crap, which shouldn't be put in stuff that costs $1500+. Previously I owned R61 (NF55WPB), which was surely lower-end laptop and I didn't have any problems with keyboard for 3 years that I spent using it (until NVS140m exhibited its factory problem and I have no longer seen anything on the screen).
- ballstothewalls 12y ago
  I think the keyboard on my T430s is the best keyboard I have ever used. It feels perfect to use. I love it and I get annoyed with anyone else's laptop. I haven't had any of your problems.