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What does this all matter besides a desire to pry into a random person's life? It adds nothing.
by comrh 12y ago
What does this all matter besides a desire to pry into a random person's life? It adds nothing.
- vacri 12y agoI was interested in why she was there, given that most of her self-referential imagery has her depicted as an innocent toddler, and most other inmates have unflattering depictions. Was she in for something that would generally be seen as 'not a crime' by the wider public? That was my curiosity. And it's not exactly a 'random person' - the author is specifically announcing an article on her personal experiences. She's trying to draw attention and in this context is a public figure. It's not like this question came out of the blue for someone trying to keep their time inside on the quiet.
- comrh 12y agoThat is my point, it was out of pure curiosity. The equivalent of rubber necking. Her article is on prison conditions, are you going to believe her more based on her crime or something? It has no relevance.
- waterlesscloud 12y agoYes. The nature of her crime does in fact shade the credibility of her reports.
- comrh 12y agoHow? Are murders more likely to lie about bad prison conditions?
- waterlesscloud 12y agoIf she'd done something relatively minor and ended up in jail because the system just grinded along, she'd have more credibility. The fact that she repeatedly broke laws and intentionally disregarded court orders and never seemed to really acknowledge the reality of her situation does reduce her credibility. Would you really judge someone in each of those situations as equally trustworthy? Really?
- mschuster91 12y ago> If she'd done something relatively minor and ended up in jail because the system just grinded along, she'd have more credibility. Human rights are called human rights because they're universal and apply to every human being, no matter the circumstances. And I personally don't care about how exactly one landed in prison - for minor offences or major, that inmates do not have the right to shower daily is just fucked up. Or that sexual violence or drug dealing in prison seems to be widespread.
- waterlesscloud 12y agoThis isn't about the conditions, it's about her credibility in reporting the conditions.
- mschuster91 12y agoAnd what exactly does the credibility of her reporting the conditions have to do with the conditions themselves? In my opinion, zero. Facts are facts, and it's not exactly new that prisons in the US tend to be shitholes.
- Dylan16807 12y agoAs a general rule, credibility is needed to figure out the facts.
- stefantalpalaru 12y agoAs a general rule, any fact you derive from a person's credibility is not a fact. Humans are unreliable and relying on their authority/credibility/good looks to establish the truth value of a proposition is a logical error. We accept this error when we have to do some fast thinking and the consequences of being wrong are small, but the moment you make this flawed logic the general rule is the moment you lose any chance at establishing the facts.
- vacri 12y agoIndeed. How dare I be curious about the background to an experience someone is writing about, given her disconcordant self-depiction in that experience. How dare I have a question about an article that is not directly related to the primary point. I must remember to be less curious.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoI admit to secretly wondering why she was incarcerated. She described herself as 'landing in jail' as if she fell out of the sky and whoops! in jail. No idea that maybe she deserved it, or did something that precipitated it - just 'landed' there.
- simplexion 12y agoApparently she had a restraining order against her. She had been stalking Ren & Stimpy creator John K.
- laurent123456 12y agoI understood her depiction as "helpless" rather than "innocent" toddler. There is nothing in her writing that indicates that she sees herself as innocent.
- Torgo 12y agoShe didn't draw the other inmates as infants, only herself.