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The population of the metro area has nothing to do with it, it's about concentration of the industry. Acting is similar. There are more acting jobs in Hollywood

The population of the metro area has nothing to do with it, it's about concentration of the industry. Acting is similar. There are more acting jobs in Hollywood than NYC. I've seen many studies of tech hiring/jobs across the country. I'm sure you can find any research you're looking for.

kasey_junk 12y ago
The OES does not agree (neither does dice.com's numbers fwiw): http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41860.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41860.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_35620.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_35620.htm#15-0000
- encoderer 12y ago
  You're missing 1/2. You have to also add San Jose-Sunnyvale-Cupertino, etc. Edit: Also, counting the total headcount of ppl writing code in the area is not a measure of how many choices you have in the job market.
  - kasey_junk 12y ago
    For completeness: http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41940.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41940.htm#15-0000 Still doesn't get you into more choice than NYC. If you don't want to use head count (and I agree there is nuance), what do you want to use? Thus my citation needed request.
    - encoderer 12y ago
      It's certainly a hard thing to measure. I'm approaching this both anecdotally and, I believe, logically. The vast majority of software developers work in IT departments writing line-of-business applications in Java, .Net, etc. Certainly NYC has a vast number of these jobs. But these roles are all very similar. You're working as a cost-center, in a supporting role, for people who ultimately don't care about software. This is true whether you're a developer for Pfizer or Jet Blue or NBC Universal or any of the other companies based in I really find the hollywood analogy apt. Yes, you can certainly find work as an actor in NYC. But the epicenter of the industry is in Hollywood. Anyway, happy new year!

kasey_junk 12y ago

The OES does not agree (neither does dice.com's numbers fwiw): http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41860.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41860.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_35620.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_35620.htm#15-0000

encoderer 12y ago
You're missing 1/2. You have to also add San Jose-Sunnyvale-Cupertino, etc. Edit: Also, counting the total headcount of ppl writing code in the area is not a measure of how many choices you have in the job market.
- kasey_junk 12y ago
  For completeness: http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41940.htm#15-0000 http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_41940.htm#15-0000 Still doesn't get you into more choice than NYC. If you don't want to use head count (and I agree there is nuance), what do you want to use? Thus my citation needed request.
  - encoderer 12y ago
    It's certainly a hard thing to measure. I'm approaching this both anecdotally and, I believe, logically. The vast majority of software developers work in IT departments writing line-of-business applications in Java, .Net, etc. Certainly NYC has a vast number of these jobs. But these roles are all very similar. You're working as a cost-center, in a supporting role, for people who ultimately don't care about software. This is true whether you're a developer for Pfizer or Jet Blue or NBC Universal or any of the other companies based in I really find the hollywood analogy apt. Yes, you can certainly find work as an actor in NYC. But the epicenter of the industry is in Hollywood. Anyway, happy new year!