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Well based on what they did, they obviously can't advertise their work. They also won't have any interest in working for SV companies. The only kind of job they

by yeukhon 12y ago

Well based on what they did, they obviously can't advertise their work. They also won't have any interest in working for SV companies. The only kind of job they are after is in the black market (organized crime and intelligence).

alexggordon 12y ago
This. Another possibility I've considered is that they obviously wouldn't be able to get a job at any SV company, but perhaps when applying for the Chinese NSA, maybe hacking Sony is something you can put on your resume? I guess I'm not sure, but my guess is there could be a few entities outside the US that would appreciate that kind of skill.
shitlord 12y ago
You can't even get into intelligence anymore after doing this, lol. They'd never pass the background checks.
- chii 12y ago
  not officially anyway...
- yeukhon 12y ago
  They hire contractors. Most intelligence works are "outsourced." http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-on-intelligence-apparatuss-reliance-on-outside-contractors/2013/06/10/e940c4ba-d20e-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-o... A plausible example is hiring a team to DDoS another State-sponsored infrastructure from outside of U.S. soil. Or hire some elite crackers to write custom software for them.
  - shitlord 12y ago
    You still get investigated even if you are a contractor. I know many of them firsthand, and they tell me that contractors are put under additional scrutiny, actually. You need a high-level clearance for this sort of work done on behalf of the government, regardless of your employer.
    - yeukhon 12y ago
      Glad to know, but I still feel some of contract works require high-level clearance or background check. If they just need a crack tool, they just need an agent to pay someone to write the tool and that doesn't give away information. Maybe I am spoiled by TV shows how they contact elite hackers in the black market.
      - shitlord 12y ago
        Yeah, there's a lot more bureaucracy involved. I know people who used to work at these sorts of places. It's a wonder that anything gets accomplished, at all.

by yeukhon 12y ago

alexggordon 12y ago

This. Another possibility I've considered is that they obviously wouldn't be able to get a job at any SV company, but perhaps when applying for the Chinese NSA, maybe hacking Sony is something you can put on your resume? I guess I'm not sure, but my guess is there could be a few entities outside the US that would appreciate that kind of skill.

shitlord 12y ago

You can't even get into intelligence anymore after doing this, lol. They'd never pass the background checks.

chii 12y ago
not officially anyway...
yeukhon 12y ago
They hire contractors. Most intelligence works are "outsourced." http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-on-intelligence-apparatuss-reliance-on-outside-contractors/2013/06/10/e940c4ba-d20e-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-o... A plausible example is hiring a team to DDoS another State-sponsored infrastructure from outside of U.S. soil. Or hire some elite crackers to write custom software for them.
- shitlord 12y ago
  You still get investigated even if you are a contractor. I know many of them firsthand, and they tell me that contractors are put under additional scrutiny, actually. You need a high-level clearance for this sort of work done on behalf of the government, regardless of your employer.
  - yeukhon 12y ago
    Glad to know, but I still feel some of contract works require high-level clearance or background check. If they just need a crack tool, they just need an agent to pay someone to write the tool and that doesn't give away information. Maybe I am spoiled by TV shows how they contact elite hackers in the black market.
    - shitlord 12y ago
      Yeah, there's a lot more bureaucracy involved. I know people who used to work at these sorts of places. It's a wonder that anything gets accomplished, at all.