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Google Wave Aha moment, with:public is Awesome

15 points by messel 17y ago

Goronmon 17y ago
I find public waves to be too much like a message board, but harder to follow.
- messel 17y ago
  Good point, thanks for chiming in. While they do resemble other forums, the drag and drop connections, and potential utility addins, as well as lightning fast search are drop dead sexy. I can't normally think up a new tool for a forum I hang out on, and have them host it. It's a distributal protocol. We can host our own servers which may require search like status propagation. I wrote it up not too long ago, but messages like "hey have you seen this string?" would aid decentralized search.
vegashacker 17y ago
I feel like you already have to know what with:public is before reading this. I got 1.5 paragraphs in and stopped since I had no idea what was going on.
- messel 17y ago
  Well then I owe you a better explanation. If you haven't used Google Wave before I should first state that there is a search box in the center window. Simply by typing in with:public it searches all public waves and displays them. Then you can scan through waves of interest and join in where you like. Additionally you can add extra qualifiers like with:public HackerNews and get waves like the HackerNews wave. Nothing Earth shattering yet, but there is definitely some potential for people connecting which is always fun (at least for me) as well as building tools (robots) for automagic wave processing.
hoffmabc 17y ago
that is sick, thanks for the tip.
- messel 17y ago
  anytime
DannoHung 17y ago
Where was documentation on with:public hidden? I perused the starter waves, but didn't see anything about that or the group: prefix.
- messel 17y ago
  I never found any Danno. Someone else pointed me to it.
TrevorJ 17y ago
I found it akin to having 100 IRC chatrooms open at one time. It was a bit too overwhelming in that new conversations kept being found/updated/changed.
- messel 17y ago
  Oh my. The full pipeline could be a litte much. I added additional words to filter by like HackerNews and reddit.
  - rationalbeaver 17y ago
    Yeah, that definitely improves the experience. Searching for locations is pretty entertaining right now. Lots of people connecting with others nearby.
  - secret 17y ago
    I just got my invitation today- there is no way with:public will be usable once anyone can join. I can't even keep up as it is. Maybe it needs a pause button.
    - messel 17y ago
      I believe the data pipeline will be quite valuable, and strong filters (Google can search like a bandit) will help you find information relevant to your interests.
bastian 17y ago
I have to say this is pretty awesome. I just created a public wave with a question in regards to the Reuters Newswires pricing structure, and the first people already replied.
- messel 17y ago
  Now that's a quick response. Monitoring the public channel for information relevant to your interests is a great way to use it.
pohl 17y ago
I get the impression that public waves were a quick hack that Google created to give new users someone to interact with while the network is new & small. (If you just got onboard, it's likely that you only have one friend, and that could get boring very quickly. Furthermore, enabling mass public interaction would give theme some stress situations to test how their infrastructure scales, and how their GWT client scales in the browser.) The strange fake contact that one has to add as a wave participant is one indicator. Another is the fact that with:public is undocumented. Once the service is completely open, it's unlikely that this hack will be needed any longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the public@a.gwave.com user retired after a while, anyway.
- messel 17y ago
  I hope that the public pipeline is maintained as long as possible. The searching power available from such a stream is quite rich with opportunity.
messel 17y ago
Followed up with embed example and how to: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=883551 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=883551

15 points by messel 17y ago

Goronmon 17y ago

I find public waves to be too much like a message board, but harder to follow.

messel 17y ago
Good point, thanks for chiming in. While they do resemble other forums, the drag and drop connections, and potential utility addins, as well as lightning fast search are drop dead sexy. I can't normally think up a new tool for a forum I hang out on, and have them host it. It's a distributal protocol. We can host our own servers which may require search like status propagation. I wrote it up not too long ago, but messages like "hey have you seen this string?" would aid decentralized search.

vegashacker 17y ago

I feel like you already have to know what with:public is before reading this. I got 1.5 paragraphs in and stopped since I had no idea what was going on.

messel 17y ago
Well then I owe you a better explanation. If you haven't used Google Wave before I should first state that there is a search box in the center window. Simply by typing in with:public it searches all public waves and displays them. Then you can scan through waves of interest and join in where you like. Additionally you can add extra qualifiers like with:public HackerNews and get waves like the HackerNews wave. Nothing Earth shattering yet, but there is definitely some potential for people connecting which is always fun (at least for me) as well as building tools (robots) for automagic wave processing.

hoffmabc 17y ago

that is sick, thanks for the tip.

messel 17y ago
anytime

DannoHung 17y ago

Where was documentation on with:public hidden? I perused the starter waves, but didn't see anything about that or the group: prefix.

messel 17y ago
I never found any Danno. Someone else pointed me to it.

TrevorJ 17y ago

I found it akin to having 100 IRC chatrooms open at one time. It was a bit too overwhelming in that new conversations kept being found/updated/changed.

messel 17y ago
Oh my. The full pipeline could be a litte much. I added additional words to filter by like HackerNews and reddit.
- rationalbeaver 17y ago
  Yeah, that definitely improves the experience. Searching for locations is pretty entertaining right now. Lots of people connecting with others nearby.
- secret 17y ago
  I just got my invitation today- there is no way with:public will be usable once anyone can join. I can't even keep up as it is. Maybe it needs a pause button.
  - messel 17y ago
    I believe the data pipeline will be quite valuable, and strong filters (Google can search like a bandit) will help you find information relevant to your interests.

bastian 17y ago

I have to say this is pretty awesome. I just created a public wave with a question in regards to the Reuters Newswires pricing structure, and the first people already replied.

messel 17y ago
Now that's a quick response. Monitoring the public channel for information relevant to your interests is a great way to use it.

pohl 17y ago

I get the impression that public waves were a quick hack that Google created to give new users someone to interact with while the network is new & small. (If you just got onboard, it's likely that you only have one friend, and that could get boring very quickly. Furthermore, enabling mass public interaction would give theme some stress situations to test how their infrastructure scales, and how their GWT client scales in the browser.) The strange fake contact that one has to add as a wave participant is one indicator. Another is the fact that with:public is undocumented. Once the service is completely open, it's unlikely that this hack will be needed any longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the public@a.gwave.com user retired after a while, anyway.

messel 17y ago
I hope that the public pipeline is maintained as long as possible. The searching power available from such a stream is quite rich with opportunity.

messel 17y ago

Followed up with embed example and how to: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=883551 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=883551