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I think this article is HN worthy, but the lack of attention to grammar and punctuation is off putting and makes it harder to take this seriously, or link to co

I think this article is HN worthy, but the lack of attention to grammar and punctuation is off putting and makes it harder to take this seriously, or link to coworkers. > Mobile is the feature and what a feature it is! But I know you meant "future". And on that, I disagree. it is NOT the future. They aren't going to obsolete PC's. They are a new branch of computing, but PC's are still around and are still the primary content creators, while mobile is primarily geared to consumption. But I'm glad to be a web developer for many of the reasons you identified. i don't need approval, I can use an array of technologies and techniques to deliver the same end product, and collaborate with others via open source projects or in online forums. It's really a great time to be a webdev. My eyes glaze over a bit when people talk iOS or android development. I just don't care. The apps I use the most are the ones that came with my phone, and I only use a handful in addition to that. I have no desire to deal with all the BS that's associated with mobile development or trying to turn a profit on the app store. If I launch my side project and it does well, I'll certainly consider native apps if the demand is there. Otherwise I'm quite happy to develop for the web/mobile-web.

rebootthesystem 12y ago
The App Store quickly became a lowest-bidder marketplace with flash-in-the-pan hits here and there and state lottery level probability of success. We jumped in and gave it an honest try in the education category. We soon realized we could make a far greater impact and have massively better control with equivalent web-based products. We can control the design, marketing, business model, interface, analytics and more. Right of the line the value proposition is enhanced by the fact that you can easily differentiate from a sea of crappy free mobile apps and we can communicate directly with our customers with depth and personal engagement. On iOS we had to deal with such nonsense as not being able to disable multitouch gestures frim the app (and only for the app, not globally). The use case being small children or developmentally disabled children, where multitouch gestures can range from a distraction to a usability nightmare. Anyhow, this is jut to echo some of what you said about web dev.
- meesterdude 12y ago
  A great reflection, and wonderful comment! It echos the echos of others I've talked to who went back to a web focus after mobile development bit them in some way.
matthewwiese 12y ago
> They aren't going to obsolete PC's. Considering you were criticizing the author on his grammar, you made a mistake yourself! "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. Also, I like your distinction between traditional PCs for creation and mobile for consumption. Mobile devices can do little in the way of content creation, disregarding the simple apps that allow users to change basic properties, such as add a filter to an image. However, I see mobile eclipsing PCs merely because the majority of people have no need to create content and merely would like to consume their favorite media.
- atlantic 12y ago
  >Considering you were criticizing the author on his grammar, you made a mistake yourself! "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. That's not quite right. In the context of American English, "obsolete" can be used as a verb. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obsolete#Verb http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obsolete#Verb
  - meesterdude 12y ago
    interesting! I get how it might not be "correct" but this explains why i didn't feel bad about it: all those examples are well within my use cases. I do care about my articulation and clarity, so I love these kinds of insights.
- deleted 12y ago
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- sheetjs 12y ago
  > "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. Merriam Webster recognizes the verb form of obsolete. The example is from 1936: > "For radio itself deliberately obsoletes today what it built yesterday." —David Sarnoff, Television, 1936 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsolete http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsolete
  - matthewwiese 12y ago
    I'll be damned, I see I was wrong! Props to you and another commenter for pointing that out. It's fun how parts of the English language may be manipulated like that, however bizarre it may sound.
api 12y ago
Yup. Last week cloud+web was the future. Now it's mobile. Next it'll be Internet of Things and nobody will ever fund another mobile startup. SV is ridiculously trendy and short term. It's not wholly irrational, but a function of how VC works. If growth is under 20% it doesn't exist. That's what they mean when they say PC is dead, etc., and of course mobile will be dead the instant growth dips.
rokhayakebe 12y ago
Most people who write in English are not native, and they did not have the required minimum training to write properly in English.
WorldWideWayne 12y ago
I wish you would have just stuck to the subject instead of picking on grammar. You have a good comment regarding the technology, but wrapping it in with the comment about grammar just added a bunch of noise. Try not doing that next time and see what happens. I guarantee you that the conversation as a whole will be much better.

rebootthesystem 12y ago

The App Store quickly became a lowest-bidder marketplace with flash-in-the-pan hits here and there and state lottery level probability of success. We jumped in and gave it an honest try in the education category. We soon realized we could make a far greater impact and have massively better control with equivalent web-based products. We can control the design, marketing, business model, interface, analytics and more. Right of the line the value proposition is enhanced by the fact that you can easily differentiate from a sea of crappy free mobile apps and we can communicate directly with our customers with depth and personal engagement. On iOS we had to deal with such nonsense as not being able to disable multitouch gestures frim the app (and only for the app, not globally). The use case being small children or developmentally disabled children, where multitouch gestures can range from a distraction to a usability nightmare. Anyhow, this is jut to echo some of what you said about web dev.

meesterdude 12y ago
A great reflection, and wonderful comment! It echos the echos of others I've talked to who went back to a web focus after mobile development bit them in some way.

matthewwiese 12y ago

> They aren't going to obsolete PC's. Considering you were criticizing the author on his grammar, you made a mistake yourself! "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. Also, I like your distinction between traditional PCs for creation and mobile for consumption. Mobile devices can do little in the way of content creation, disregarding the simple apps that allow users to change basic properties, such as add a filter to an image. However, I see mobile eclipsing PCs merely because the majority of people have no need to create content and merely would like to consume their favorite media.

atlantic 12y ago
>Considering you were criticizing the author on his grammar, you made a mistake yourself! "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. That's not quite right. In the context of American English, "obsolete" can be used as a verb. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obsolete#Verb http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obsolete#Verb
- meesterdude 12y ago
  interesting! I get how it might not be "correct" but this explains why i didn't feel bad about it: all those examples are well within my use cases. I do care about my articulation and clarity, so I love these kinds of insights.
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sheetjs 12y ago
> "Obsolete" is an adjective, not a verb. Merriam Webster recognizes the verb form of obsolete. The example is from 1936: > "For radio itself deliberately obsoletes today what it built yesterday." —David Sarnoff, Television, 1936 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsolete http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsolete
- matthewwiese 12y ago
  I'll be damned, I see I was wrong! Props to you and another commenter for pointing that out. It's fun how parts of the English language may be manipulated like that, however bizarre it may sound.

api 12y ago

Yup. Last week cloud+web was the future. Now it's mobile. Next it'll be Internet of Things and nobody will ever fund another mobile startup. SV is ridiculously trendy and short term. It's not wholly irrational, but a function of how VC works. If growth is under 20% it doesn't exist. That's what they mean when they say PC is dead, etc., and of course mobile will be dead the instant growth dips.

rokhayakebe 12y ago

Most people who write in English are not native, and they did not have the required minimum training to write properly in English.

WorldWideWayne 12y ago

I wish you would have just stuck to the subject instead of picking on grammar. You have a good comment regarding the technology, but wrapping it in with the comment about grammar just added a bunch of noise. Try not doing that next time and see what happens. I guarantee you that the conversation as a whole will be much better.