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I don't believe for a second that the Sony hack was North Korea. It was a made up story to cover up their shitty security.

by searine 12y ago

dharbin 12y ago
If true, what's the motive of the hack? lulz? Was there some kind of extortion attempt?
owenwil 12y ago
The only people who ever said it was North Korea was the media, not Sony or even the FBI!
- sammorrowdrums 12y ago
  I think that's correct. Either innocuous (somebody tried to think what it might be and reported it as if it were likely / truth), or insidious (government saw chance to increase negativity towards North Korea)... Still, crazy how much of a shit storm this has created!
- mbesto 12y ago
  You realize how easy it is for a business the size of Sony to get the media's attention right?
seanalltogether 12y ago
"Guardians of Peace" sounds like an elaborate troll. Yes the hack was significant, but I can't imagine the people responsible can do any damage to these movie theaters beyond ordering a bunch of pizzas to their address.
- yongjik 12y ago
  Yeah it sounds more and more like someone doing it "for lulz". North Korea will never bomb an American theater, unless they developed a suicidal urge for sudden and forceful "liberation". Maybe, given the hyperbolic rhetoric they are fond of using, they might feel perfectly OK threatening to unleash "a sea of fire" on the US, but I doubt even North Koreans are taking these expressions seriously.
  - xienze 12y ago
    Whether or not NK can attack an American theater isn't really the issue (they can't). What was accomplished was planting the seed that something could happen at a theater if the movie was released. I could easily see some nutcase acting on his own behalf attacking a screening of the movie, and then the fallout from "Sony was warned and they showed the movie anyway!!!" would be massive. Honestly, I would've made the same call.
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Someone1234 12y ago
The North Korean story has all kinds of issues: - North Korea is not that technologically sophisticated (at least compared to China or Russia, for example). - North Korea has very limited internet access in general. - It is highly likely the few internet pipes NK has are being heavily monitored. - NK has bigger fish to fry, frankly. They can easily control this movie within their borders and they've ignored previous movies that made fun of them (World Police?). If it is a NK supporter or supporters I doubt they're located physically within NK. But I suspect this was just a random hacker who decided to blame it on NK/the movie for the lolz.
- dmix 12y ago
  A hand-picked group of say 5 kids from within NK, given special training for years and access to lots of resources could easily pull off what happened at Sony. None of your points are things that would stop a small special ops team from pulling off the Sony hack. Nor would it have required a significant reason or investment. Simply because the alternative is that a small group of semi-sophisticated non-state backed hackers could also pull if off. To say that NK can't acquire or won't utilize similar capabilities is a bit naive. What we need is evidence that it wasn't NK than even more endless conjecture here. See also "In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite" http://recode.net/2014/12/07/in-north-korea-hackers-are-a-handpicked-pampered-elite/ http://recode.net/2014/12/07/in-north-korea-hackers-are-a-ha...
  - xienze 12y ago
    Nah, I just don't see a country that isolated and impoverished having the resources and talent necessary to do any major damage through hacking. They may very well claim to have l33t hax0rz but just like everything else their claimed superiority and reality don't quite line up. Now, I would not be surprised if they had help from China, but I really doubt NK did this themselves.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  >> "- North Korea has very limited internet access in general. - It is highly likely the few internet pipes NK has are being heavily monitored." I think the accusations are being levelled at the NK government not some rouge civilian hackers.
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I don't believe for a second that the Sony hack was North Korea. It was a made up story to cover up their shitty security.

by searine 12y ago

I don't believe for a second that the Sony hack was North Korea. It was a made up story to cover up their shitty security.

dharbin 12y ago

If true, what's the motive of the hack? lulz? Was there some kind of extortion attempt?

owenwil 12y ago

The only people who ever said it was North Korea was the media, not Sony or even the FBI!

sammorrowdrums 12y ago
I think that's correct. Either innocuous (somebody tried to think what it might be and reported it as if it were likely / truth), or insidious (government saw chance to increase negativity towards North Korea)... Still, crazy how much of a shit storm this has created!
mbesto 12y ago
You realize how easy it is for a business the size of Sony to get the media's attention right?

seanalltogether 12y ago

"Guardians of Peace" sounds like an elaborate troll. Yes the hack was significant, but I can't imagine the people responsible can do any damage to these movie theaters beyond ordering a bunch of pizzas to their address.

yongjik 12y ago
Yeah it sounds more and more like someone doing it "for lulz". North Korea will never bomb an American theater, unless they developed a suicidal urge for sudden and forceful "liberation". Maybe, given the hyperbolic rhetoric they are fond of using, they might feel perfectly OK threatening to unleash "a sea of fire" on the US, but I doubt even North Koreans are taking these expressions seriously.
- xienze 12y ago
  Whether or not NK can attack an American theater isn't really the issue (they can't). What was accomplished was planting the seed that something could happen at a theater if the movie was released. I could easily see some nutcase acting on his own behalf attacking a screening of the movie, and then the fallout from "Sony was warned and they showed the movie anyway!!!" would be massive. Honestly, I would've made the same call.
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Someone1234 12y ago

The North Korean story has all kinds of issues: - North Korea is not that technologically sophisticated (at least compared to China or Russia, for example). - North Korea has very limited internet access in general. - It is highly likely the few internet pipes NK has are being heavily monitored. - NK has bigger fish to fry, frankly. They can easily control this movie within their borders and they've ignored previous movies that made fun of them (World Police?). If it is a NK supporter or supporters I doubt they're located physically within NK. But I suspect this was just a random hacker who decided to blame it on NK/the movie for the lolz.

dmix 12y ago
A hand-picked group of say 5 kids from within NK, given special training for years and access to lots of resources could easily pull off what happened at Sony. None of your points are things that would stop a small special ops team from pulling off the Sony hack. Nor would it have required a significant reason or investment. Simply because the alternative is that a small group of semi-sophisticated non-state backed hackers could also pull if off. To say that NK can't acquire or won't utilize similar capabilities is a bit naive. What we need is evidence that it wasn't NK than even more endless conjecture here. See also "In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite" http://recode.net/2014/12/07/in-north-korea-hackers-are-a-handpicked-pampered-elite/ http://recode.net/2014/12/07/in-north-korea-hackers-are-a-ha...
- xienze 12y ago
  Nah, I just don't see a country that isolated and impoverished having the resources and talent necessary to do any major damage through hacking. They may very well claim to have l33t hax0rz but just like everything else their claimed superiority and reality don't quite line up. Now, I would not be surprised if they had help from China, but I really doubt NK did this themselves.
k-mcgrady 12y ago
>> "- North Korea has very limited internet access in general. - It is highly likely the few internet pipes NK has are being heavily monitored." I think the accusations are being levelled at the NK government not some rouge civilian hackers.

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