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The Firefox news is going to do more to bring down Mozilla than bootstrap Yahoo. Yahoo's search IS inferior, and forcing it on people is bullshit. Mozilla shoul

by debacle 12y ago

The Firefox news is going to do more to bring down Mozilla than bootstrap Yahoo. Yahoo's search IS inferior, and forcing it on people is bullshit. Mozilla should allow users to choose their default search provider on installation.

jamespo 12y ago
Forcing? I didn't realise Firefox were hardcoding this in now.
- debacle 12y ago
  I chose not to receive updates to my search. Mozilla updated my search anyway. That's forcing. It's underhanded. And now I have sponsored links when I open a new tab in Firefox, from Mozilla partners. It's starting to stink. The Mozilla foundation is losing sight of their mission.
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  - dhimes 12y ago
    They are running a donation campaign right now. I hope you donated.
- ep103 12y ago
  You literally can't type a search query in firefox without it asking you which engine you would like to use.
  - markc 12y ago
    Unless you click "change search settings" (on that pulldown dialog) and deselect all the other providers.
    - ep103 12y ago
      Honestly, I'm really impressed with the UI of that little search box.
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timtadh 12y ago
Firefox has a wizard which tells you how to change it the first time you click in the box. If that isn't a good experience for the search box I don't know what is. They have actually significantly enhanced the UX for how searching works when they switched to Yahoo default on installation. (These enhancements may only be in the nightlies right now)
isaacremuant 12y ago
> Mozilla should allow users to choose their default search provider on installation. That's EXACTLY what they do. The same way the did before. Google was the default and people could easily change it to bing, duck duck go or whatever they wanted. They still can but the default is Yahoo instead of Google. Options > Search > Default search engine. It's really easy. I'd advice you to CHECK things before spreading this kind of disinformation.
- debacle 12y ago
  I am 100% certain that when I updated to Firefox latest, my default search engine was changed. Give me just a moment to reconfirm. Edit: Just confirmed. Installed FF 30. Turned off the option to receive search updates. Updated to latest, provider was still changed to Yahoo.
  - jdp23 12y ago
    mine wasn't changed: it was DDG before, and still is.
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  - nissimk 12y ago
    My wife was complaining about that same thing. She was like "What the heck is Yahoo search?!? Is that even a thing?"
  - TD-Linux 12y ago
    The default search changes if you have never touched the search option.
    - geoelectric 12y ago
      It probably changed even if you switched away from Google and back to it at some point. Firefox checks the pref value, and if it equals the default it considers it a reset and removes it from the prefs override file. There's no way to hard set the equivalent of the default value. But as mentioned elsewhere, now that the default is Yahoo, changing it to Google should stick forever.

by debacle 12y ago

jamespo 12y ago

Forcing? I didn't realise Firefox were hardcoding this in now.

debacle 12y ago
I chose not to receive updates to my search. Mozilla updated my search anyway. That's forcing. It's underhanded. And now I have sponsored links when I open a new tab in Firefox, from Mozilla partners. It's starting to stink. The Mozilla foundation is losing sight of their mission.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- dhimes 12y ago
  They are running a donation campaign right now. I hope you donated.
ep103 12y ago
You literally can't type a search query in firefox without it asking you which engine you would like to use.
- markc 12y ago
  Unless you click "change search settings" (on that pulldown dialog) and deselect all the other providers.
  - ep103 12y ago
    Honestly, I'm really impressed with the UI of that little search box.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]

timtadh 12y ago

Firefox has a wizard which tells you how to change it the first time you click in the box. If that isn't a good experience for the search box I don't know what is. They have actually significantly enhanced the UX for how searching works when they switched to Yahoo default on installation. (These enhancements may only be in the nightlies right now)

isaacremuant 12y ago

> Mozilla should allow users to choose their default search provider on installation. That's EXACTLY what they do. The same way the did before. Google was the default and people could easily change it to bing, duck duck go or whatever they wanted. They still can but the default is Yahoo instead of Google. Options > Search > Default search engine. It's really easy. I'd advice you to CHECK things before spreading this kind of disinformation.

debacle 12y ago
I am 100% certain that when I updated to Firefox latest, my default search engine was changed. Give me just a moment to reconfirm. Edit: Just confirmed. Installed FF 30. Turned off the option to receive search updates. Updated to latest, provider was still changed to Yahoo.
- jdp23 12y ago
  mine wasn't changed: it was DDG before, and still is.
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- nissimk 12y ago
  My wife was complaining about that same thing. She was like "What the heck is Yahoo search?!? Is that even a thing?"
- TD-Linux 12y ago
  The default search changes if you have never touched the search option.
  - geoelectric 12y ago
    It probably changed even if you switched away from Google and back to it at some point. Firefox checks the pref value, and if it equals the default it considers it a reset and removes it from the prefs override file. There's no way to hard set the equivalent of the default value. But as mentioned elsewhere, now that the default is Yahoo, changing it to Google should stick forever.