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Russia is only a threat to its own citizens and border countries who are not members of NATO. The West was bringing Russia closer, now that trust is gone and wi

Russia is only a threat to its own citizens and border countries who are not members of NATO. The West was bringing Russia closer, now that trust is gone and will take a long time to repair.

osipov 12y ago
>>The West was bringing Russia closer As part of bringing Russia closer, the West decided to shred Russia of its defense interests inherited from the Soviet Union. There was a systematic attack by the West on Russia's interests in Central Asia, Georgia, Syria, and now Ukraine. You can only bait the bear for so long until it bites you back.
- happyscrappy 12y ago
  The bear is rabid but toothless and can be largely ignored except for their actions Ukraine, in which they laughably pretend they are not involved.
  - adventured 12y ago
    Not just toothless, but soon to be insolvent. It should only take another 12 to 18 months with oil below $60 or $70, to thoroughly crash the Russian economy and deplete their reserves (the share of their reserves they can actually use). At that point they'll either effectively capitulate, or they'll instigate a greater war.
- curiously 12y ago
  You sound like one of the many Russian comment spam bots from Reddit news threads about anything Russian.
  - osipov 12y ago
    You are someone with an account created 69 days ago. A noob. Back in the day both reddit and this place used to have rational discussions. Until noobs like you showed up.
    - curiously 12y ago
      Actually I've been coming on here for years now. This is just one of my other accounts created while I'm at work. But yeah, seems like you are on your way to being hellbanned.
- dreamweapon 12y ago
  You can only bait the bear for so long until it bites you back. But he isn't "biting back" at the West. He's biting on the bones of thousands of civilians (of all nationalities) killed in Ukraine. And hundreds of his own soldiers, sent illegally (by Russia's own laws) to fight in a war beyond its borders.
osipov 12y ago
>>toothless Don't know who you are but I'll happy if citizens of the West will be under an impression that nuclear weapons will never be used. For many reasons.
rwallace 12y ago
What's actually going on here is people are committing the classic mistake of assuming if one side of a quarrel is in the wrong, the other must be in the right. As far as I'm concerned, while we could bicker about whether Russia or the West has been more insanely stupid in its part in the escalating spiral of provocation in recent years, it would be quibbling over details. The point that matters is that all of the governments in question are behaving like fools, and need to be brought under control or replaced with saner minds before the same pattern of stupidity that we saw a hundred years ago leads to the same results - and this time around, both sides have nuclear weapons.

Russia is only a threat to its own citizens and border countries who are not members of NATO. The West was bringing Russia closer, now that trust is gone and will take a long time to repair.

osipov 12y ago

>>The West was bringing Russia closer As part of bringing Russia closer, the West decided to shred Russia of its defense interests inherited from the Soviet Union. There was a systematic attack by the West on Russia's interests in Central Asia, Georgia, Syria, and now Ukraine. You can only bait the bear for so long until it bites you back.

happyscrappy 12y ago
The bear is rabid but toothless and can be largely ignored except for their actions Ukraine, in which they laughably pretend they are not involved.
- adventured 12y ago
  Not just toothless, but soon to be insolvent. It should only take another 12 to 18 months with oil below $60 or $70, to thoroughly crash the Russian economy and deplete their reserves (the share of their reserves they can actually use). At that point they'll either effectively capitulate, or they'll instigate a greater war.
curiously 12y ago
You sound like one of the many Russian comment spam bots from Reddit news threads about anything Russian.
- osipov 12y ago
  You are someone with an account created 69 days ago. A noob. Back in the day both reddit and this place used to have rational discussions. Until noobs like you showed up.
  - curiously 12y ago
    Actually I've been coming on here for years now. This is just one of my other accounts created while I'm at work. But yeah, seems like you are on your way to being hellbanned.
dreamweapon 12y ago
You can only bait the bear for so long until it bites you back. But he isn't "biting back" at the West. He's biting on the bones of thousands of civilians (of all nationalities) killed in Ukraine. And hundreds of his own soldiers, sent illegally (by Russia's own laws) to fight in a war beyond its borders.

osipov 12y ago

>>toothless Don't know who you are but I'll happy if citizens of the West will be under an impression that nuclear weapons will never be used. For many reasons.

rwallace 12y ago

What's actually going on here is people are committing the classic mistake of assuming if one side of a quarrel is in the wrong, the other must be in the right. As far as I'm concerned, while we could bicker about whether Russia or the West has been more insanely stupid in its part in the escalating spiral of provocation in recent years, it would be quibbling over details. The point that matters is that all of the governments in question are behaving like fools, and need to be brought under control or replaced with saner minds before the same pattern of stupidity that we saw a hundred years ago leads to the same results - and this time around, both sides have nuclear weapons.