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Do these games have a large following? I tried to play one once and found it to be a pretty typical "You've played a few levels, now you have to pay to win."

by debacle 12y ago

minimaxir 12y ago
The launch of the original Kingdom Rush on iOS had zero IAP elements; they were only added in later. The game is definitely not pay-to-win, although there is low flexibility in strategy. (You must use all 4 types of base units.)
- smilekzs 12y ago
  IIRC you can and are supposed to (at higher difficulty) beat levels without using all 4
  - eric_h 12y ago
    Beyond the standard "Campaign" modes, every level has two more modes with restrictions on which towers (and maximum upgrade levels) that you can use. All three of these games are great fun and a great way to kill an hour while, e.g. waiting for a plane.
maudineormsby 12y ago
Definitely not necessary to pay to play these games. Makes it easier, sure, but they don't have timers or super high difficulty spikes to overcome, except maybe the last level.
riffraff 12y ago
Mobile versione might differ, but I played it on kongregate (yay flash) and you could get to the end without paying anything.
wmeredith 12y ago
Aren't these the guys advertising during NFL games? I hope they have a large following.
- wnevets 12y ago
  with kate upton? Thats a totally different company/game.
- wmeredith 12y ago
  EDIT: Ah, I see. Totally different company.
wnevets 12y ago
That wasn't the case with the flash version, I never paid a nickel and completed most of the challenges and the game. I recently bought Frontiers for Android and while the game has "heroes" and "gems" for sale, I havent had to buy anything to beat levels.
pliu 12y ago
Definitely not the case. I have played through all the Kingdom Rush games, fully and doing all the bonus objectives, without spending a dime beyond the initial purchase. I had a great time too, and I have a pretty low tolerance for grind. I think the KR games are exceptionally well designed in this regard.
socialist_coder 12y ago
This game is definitely not pay to win. In my opinion, the challenge level is perfect. With a bit of practice, you should be able to beat every level. Then, going back and 3 starring every level will take more skill and practice and maybe some light item usage (which you can earn via playing, since you only need to use them occasionally). If someone is really that bad at the game that they can't even win without using a ton of items per level, then yes, it's pay to win. But if it wasn't pay to win, they would just be stuck and couldn't play at all. The game isn't freemium either, and it's not designed to be pay to win (I'm a successful freemium game developer). > Do these games have a large following? It's widely considered to be one of the best tower defense games on iOS.

Do these games have a large following? I tried to play one once and found it to be a pretty typical "You've played a few levels, now you have to pay to win."

by debacle 12y ago

Do these games have a large following? I tried to play one once and found it to be a pretty typical "You've played a few levels, now you have to pay to win."

minimaxir 12y ago

The launch of the original Kingdom Rush on iOS had zero IAP elements; they were only added in later. The game is definitely not pay-to-win, although there is low flexibility in strategy. (You must use all 4 types of base units.)

smilekzs 12y ago
IIRC you can and are supposed to (at higher difficulty) beat levels without using all 4
- eric_h 12y ago
  Beyond the standard "Campaign" modes, every level has two more modes with restrictions on which towers (and maximum upgrade levels) that you can use. All three of these games are great fun and a great way to kill an hour while, e.g. waiting for a plane.

maudineormsby 12y ago

Definitely not necessary to pay to play these games. Makes it easier, sure, but they don't have timers or super high difficulty spikes to overcome, except maybe the last level.

riffraff 12y ago

Mobile versione might differ, but I played it on kongregate (yay flash) and you could get to the end without paying anything.

wmeredith 12y ago

Aren't these the guys advertising during NFL games? I hope they have a large following.

wnevets 12y ago
with kate upton? Thats a totally different company/game.
wmeredith 12y ago
EDIT: Ah, I see. Totally different company.

wnevets 12y ago

That wasn't the case with the flash version, I never paid a nickel and completed most of the challenges and the game. I recently bought Frontiers for Android and while the game has "heroes" and "gems" for sale, I havent had to buy anything to beat levels.

pliu 12y ago

Definitely not the case. I have played through all the Kingdom Rush games, fully and doing all the bonus objectives, without spending a dime beyond the initial purchase. I had a great time too, and I have a pretty low tolerance for grind. I think the KR games are exceptionally well designed in this regard.

socialist_coder 12y ago

This game is definitely not pay to win. In my opinion, the challenge level is perfect. With a bit of practice, you should be able to beat every level. Then, going back and 3 starring every level will take more skill and practice and maybe some light item usage (which you can earn via playing, since you only need to use them occasionally). If someone is really that bad at the game that they can't even win without using a ton of items per level, then yes, it's pay to win. But if it wasn't pay to win, they would just be stuck and couldn't play at all. The game isn't freemium either, and it's not designed to be pay to win (I'm a successful freemium game developer). > Do these games have a large following? It's widely considered to be one of the best tower defense games on iOS.