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Orion flight test rescheduled for tomorrow
- tempestn 12y agoThe coverage is switching between live launch coverage and other NASA stuff right now. Launch window opens at 7:05am EST.
- bjz_ 12y agoSome bright soul seems to have sailed their boat into the launch area - looks like it is going to be delayed :(
- vital101 12y agoNasaTV looks like its struggling with load. Use http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow for a better stream.
- trothamel 12y agohttp://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv also seems to be working reasonably well.
- Untit1ed 12y agoIt boggles my mind that a 12 year old playing DOTA can reliably stream to an audience but NASA can't figure it out. EDIT: Seems they've swapped their stream for the ustream one, guess they can.
- jbjorge 12y agoThe number of viewers might be a bit different.
- dogma1138 12y agoYes, DOTA gets more views :(
- Untit1ed 12y agoAdmittedly looking at the figures on ustream it's a lot more popular than I thought it'd be, but still less than the higher end of what you see on Twitch, and they don't get to plan when a stream goes viral.
- dogma1138 12y agoI would love to see NASA's PR people get their heads out of their arse and actually stream on Twitch, also won't mind CERN doing it. And yes while it might not get as many view's as the latest goat simulator bench play presented by an ex-porn star in a bikini it surely can expose tons of people to things that actually matter.
- eterm 12y agoTwitch has had massive growing pains, it's taken them a very long time to get to a point where they are smooth under load. For a long time the LCS broadcasts were always very stuttery on twitch, so much so that streams were also set up on Youtube and Azubu to help. About 6months - 1yr ago twitch suddenly got a lot better in this regard but I certainly wouldn't expect NASA to do a better job than a site dedicated to streaming. (The 12yr old playing the game is a red herring, they're just streaming to twitch.) Twitch previously were Justin.tv but switched to gaming as clearly it was a fast growing niche, otherwise their old platform would have been suitable for factual content like this.
- Untit1ed 12y ago> The 12yr old playing the game is a red herring, they're just streaming to twitch That was basically what I was getting at though - if the 12 year old can stream off their home broadband to twitch reliably for free, why is NASA bothering with their own, worse streaming solution? But to their credit NASA responded very quickly, took their own streaming off and embedded ustream instead, so I guess I don't really have anything to whinge about.
- CHY872 12y agoDoes it though? Does it really?
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- chinpokomon 12y agoWhat boggles my mind is that NASA TV is blocking the ability to stream to a Chromecast device. I can't fathom what they think they are protecting. I first noticed the problem when I wanted to watch the Rosetta landing and blew it off as an odd technical problem with my Chromecast that I needed to fix. Trying it again this morning, I realized that this must be something NASA TV is actively blocking. I've never seen this specific behavior on any other site.
- mikeyouse 12y agoHmm.. I didn't watch Rosetta via Chromecast and I slept through this morning's activities, but I didn't have any problem casting a few videos from their site and the current 'live stream' (although it's a Ustream link right now). I have ran into streaming issues in the past, but I don't think it's a site specific thing as much as it was Chromecasts lack of support for Silverlight. To watch Amazon Prime videos for instance, you need to go to some obscure setting and force Amazon to serve up Flash videos. Does NASATV normally use Silverlight? That might be the explanation.. Although the last comment on this Reddit post indicates it's potentially something NASA could fix; http://www.reddit.com/r/Chromecast/comments/28cz98/will_chromecast_ever_support_silverlight/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Chromecast/comments/28cz98/will_chro...
- jheriko 12y ago> I realized that this must be something NASA TV is actively blocking that is a very strong conclusion to come to from two coincidental data points and no concrete evidence...
- chinpokomon 12y agoMaybe not NASA themselves since it looks like a third party host, but the way it displays the error, it looks like a conscience decision. Most video hosting sources go right through unless it's a .flv, Silverlight, or code to detect Chromecast and block streaming.
- mhandley 12y agoThere's also a BBC feed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30327137 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30327137
- donpdonp 12y agoAlso remember what we might be taking for granted with this stream - THAT WE HAVE A LIVESTREAM. Its not secret. Its not hidden. Its not classified. Its in the open. Ever seen our astronauts launch in a Soyuz from the Russian launch facility? No, because they don't stream it! Its certainly technically possible, its most likely administratively denied. Being open requires more than a livestream. For instance I doubt the accelerometer data from the Orion itself is available, but its something. Fund public science. Make results public.
- walls 12y agoThe Soyuz launch around two weeks ago was streamed. Granted, the footage was more or less constrained to the cockpit, but it was streamed.
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- quarterto 12y agoCurrently the launch is on hold for a couple of reasons: 1. There is (was?) a boat in the exclusion zone 2. The second stage propellant needs more conditioning The hold was going to end in 2 minutes, they're going to cycle the clock to at least T-9mins when they've decided exactly when T0 is. EDIT: as of 12:07 GMT we're at T-10mins.
- robodale 12y agoI thought they were saying "bolt" instead of boat. I was confused as to why they aborted early on because of a bolt in the exclusion zone.
- kirk21 12y agoI don't get why they don't launch if there is a boat. If there is someone with a death wish, that is his problem. Second time in a few months they have to scrub for a boat. Idiots should pay a lot of money.
- drinchev 12y agoNew T-zero time 7:17 EST UPDATE ( 7:14 ) - Ground wind violation, Launch delayed. UPDATE ( 7:46 ) - New T-ZERO time 7:55 UPDATE ( 7:53 ) - Launch on hold. Another wind violation. UPDATE ( 8:15 ) - New T-ZERO time 8:26 UPDATE ( 8:23 ) - Launch on hold again. UPDATE ( 8:28 ) - Left and center booster anomalies ( Valves sensors, showing not closed ). Quote from official NASA blog : "A fill and drain valve on the rocket did not function correctly. Standing by as rocket and spacecraft are safed."
- iancarroll 12y agoThey just said they're going to test the valves five times and give a recommendation to start the count or not.
- joezydeco 12y agoNow 14:44Z (9:44 EST). Sounds like they're disabling a bunch of automated safeguards (like the wind speed monitoring) to get this thing up.
- joezydeco 12y agoAnd it's scrubbed. Back to work, everyone!
- drinchev 12y agoUPDATE ( 9:30 ) - There is a new T-ZERO 9:44
- film42 12y agoUDATE: 24-hr re-cycle.
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- drinchev 12y agoGoogle Earth link of launch site https://www.google.de/maps/place/Cape+Canaveral+Air+Force+Station+Space+Launch+Complex+41/@28.583466,-80.582914,1000m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x88e0bbabe31ee4cf:0xd3a552dd90e0258b?hl=en https://www.google.de/maps/place/Cape+Canaveral+Air+Force+St...
- antr 12y agoLaunch update: it's 12.45pm GMT. Time to launch in 10 min, 7.55am EST. Update 2: at 7.53am EST, a new launch time being established due to wind anomalies.
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- EvaK_de 12y agoNew launch time: 08:26
- EvaK_de 12y agoEverything is GO right now... Winds, too, finally.
- EvaK_de 12y agoAnybody understood why the countdown was aborted with only 3 minutes left?
- quarterto 12y agoWind. Again.
- Untit1ed 12y agoIt'd be really great if NASA found some particularly charismatic engineer to act as a colour commentator and talk about the technology at play. The silence while we wait for a new launch time is peaceful but a bit dull...
- fnordfnordfnord 12y agoI'd nominate this guy. (Saturn V launch high speed video with commentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y
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- lotsofmangos 12y agoGet them to wear nothing, just to be safe. edit - But it is what Jack Parsons would have wanted. Well, nothing but a goat skull, maybe.
- spiritplumber 12y agoThey could have Scott Manley do that. He does a great job with KSP, he'd do even better with real life stuff, I think. He knows what he's talking about, doesn't sutter or go "umm", and he sounds pretty hot.
- tomswartz07 12y ago"Hullo Its Scott Manley here!"
- azernik 12y ago"Fly safe!"
- Lambdanaut 12y agoSeconded. I learned just about all I know about KSP from that guy. He'd make an excellent NASA caster.
- jbrooksuk 12y agoI've never watched/listened to a live launch before. I'm finding it really interesting, terms like "race position", the alarm going off and the list of checks etc. I'm really excited for this! Let's hope the wind dies down.
- welshguy 12y agoEngine bearing temperature trending the wrong way.
- anurags 12y agoYou can also follow the NASA Twitter Feed: https://twitter.com/NASA https://twitter.com/NASA
- privong 12y agoAwesome – the announcer just noted that there's a UAV which will be used to capture the final descent splashdown of the Orion capsule. That should make for interesting video. The UAV—Ikhana—looks to be a modified Predator: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/aircraft/Ikhana/index.html http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/aircraft/Ikhana/index....
- mikeyouse 12y agoThat's amazing. SpaceX should get one of those too, I understand the restriction for manned flights when rockets or capsules are coming back down, but it was sure frustrating to miss the water 'landing' of that last Falcon-9 due to the chase plane staying so far from the scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIlu7szab5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIlu7szab5I
- corford 12y agoNew T-ZERO just set at 14:44 UTC (and that's the last possible attempt for today)
- corford 12y agoAnd... bummer they've just scrubbed the launch for today :(
- debacle 12y agoI haven't really been following this - was this a previously announced and planned launch, before the news about Mars yesterday?
- smackfu 12y agoYes, it's been planned for a couple of years.
- debacle 12y agoThanks. To the outside observer it seemed like the two were connected.
- Strom 12y agoThe two are connected, this is a test launch of Orion, the ship meant for taking us to Mars.
- smackfu 12y agoIt's kind of like, NASA taking advantage of the Orion test flight press to get their Mars plan out there.
- trhway 12y agowell, considering that Orion is intended for beyond LEO missions including Mars...
- smackfu 12y agoOrion is pretty unsuited for a mission as long as a Mars trip. So I doubt the spacecraft used for that would have anything to do with what they are currently calling Orion.
- trhway 12y agobe my guest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28spacecraft%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28spacecraft%29 . Search for "Mars". Of course, it wouldn't be the "long-term deep space habitat" module - that would be a specialized module.
- randallsquared 12y agoScrub for today; trying again in 24h.
- parksy 12y agoFair enough, with the hardware cost, would be a mistake to launch without all systems in check.
- DigitalJack 12y agoTrue, but if they spent less time going from ready states to standby states and back again (aka recycling the clock) i bet they could have launched.
- SliderUp 12y agoPoop. Scrubbed for today.
- noisy_boy 12y agoI've always wanted to know about the steady emission of what looks like steam/smoke(?) from the upper body (not nozzle) of the rockets in the pre-launch stage. Anybody knows more about that?
- CapitalistCartr 12y agoThat's liquid oxygen or liquid hydrogen cooking off.
- lfuller 12y agoIt's liquid oxygen venting. Oxygen can be kept in a liquid state by either keeping the temperature extremely low or keeping it under high pressure. Since reinforcing the tanks to handle incredibly high pressures would require too much weight, the tanks are instead constantly being topped up with cryogenic fuel until the moment of launch. As for the venting: the fuel starts heating up and evaporating as soon as it's pumped into the tanks causing the pressure within the tanks to rise. Since the tanks aren't rated for high pressure, they have to vent the excess oxygen to keep within safety margins.
- cowardlydragon 12y ago... This is just the crew module? ... propulsion is the interesting part of interplanetary travel. What is the propulsion tech for this?
- JonathonW 12y agoThis test flight is launching on a Delta IV Heavy, which is a pretty well proven launch system (first time NASA's used it, though, AFAIK). Ultimately, Orion's supposed to be launched on NASA's new Space Launch System [1], but it's not ready yet. I believe the first scheduled test flight for Orion and SLS together is supposed to be sometime in 2017. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System
- ChikkaChiChi 12y agoNASA just showed the world that listening to data and showing restraint is far more important than grabbing a good headline. Kudos to them for doing the right thing.
- natch 12y agoI opened this up this morning to show my daughter at breakfast, thinking, hey, getting kids interested in this stuff is good. Dead silence. Nothing. Not a word of commentary. To a kid, that conveys boring. I could hear some white noise and after a while some faint public address system speech way off in the background. So disappointing. NASA, do you still have an educational component to your mission? It would be really great if these big launches were explained a bit on the live video feed. If there's nothing going on to explain, there should be a ton of material waiting from NASA history to fill the air time.
- tempestn 12y agoAt least in the hours up to the launch, it was actually really good. There was a ton of content describing the intended launch, its goals, requirements, planning that went into it, etc. There was also a segment with Elmo (from Sesame Street) talking with an astronaut and an engineer (iirc) that I saw, and apparently another similar special "guest". They probably just didn't have as much planned for the period after the launch was aborted.