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As a hiring manager, I can promise you that your generalizations are sweeping and full of misplaced emotional verbiage. Since it is my job to hire the best cand
by jarjoura 12y ago
As a hiring manager, I can promise you that your generalizations are sweeping and full of misplaced emotional verbiage. Since it is my job to hire the best candidate and even though my company gives me access to a world of engineers, I will still try to find the best with the least amount of friction. That means, someone who already lives here and can start as soon as possible with the least amount of demands.
Talent may be plentiful in the Bay Area, but just like dating, both parties have to actually want to work together and believe in each other. Plus, no engineer I've interviewed was desperate for a job. Nor would I want to hire someone who was desperate.
That being said, regardless of someone's H1B status, we would pay exactly the same base salary to them. Additionally, the H1B person even comes out ahead since we also pay the crazy high government fees for the application or transfer.
- ep103 12y agoThen that makes you an exceptional case, and implies that you work for a good company. But neither of those points represent how this program is more widely (ab)used.
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- eli_gottlieb 12y ago>Nor would I want to hire someone who was desperate. If you won't, someone else will, and they'll outcompete you.
- LLWM 12y agoThen society benefits because those products are produced more efficiently.
- brandonl222 12y agoDo you really think your situation represents the majority of H1B employers?
- LordHumungous 12y agoYour anecdotal experience doesn't change the fact that H1B workers are paid less than American workers for comparable positions. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/silicon-valley-h1b-visas-hurt-tech-workers http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/silicon-valley-h...
- DINKDINK 12y agoWhy would you expect them to be paid the same. Should something that ships from Alaska cost the same as something shipped from your next door neighbor?
- DINKDINK 12y agoCan anyone explain the downvotes? or does the Upton Sinclair quote hold "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
- paublyrne 12y agoThe metaphor you used appears to objectify immigrants.
- jakevn 12y agoCompanies can take advantage of situations for profit, and that's their right, but the argument needs to be qualified so that we aren't speaking past one another. Are we talking about "should be able to" or "it's the right (for whatever definition of right) thing to do"? I'm going to go with the latter since I have little opinion on the law. For example, a company has the right to ask its programmers to work 80 hours. It's their right to squeeze as much out of their employees as they can. Should they? Should companies be taking advantage of low wages in other countries instead of paying market value? They certainly can chase the profit, but we're talking about people, not goods. At the end of the day, they're paying a person less simply because they know that they have little bargaining room. Some consider it unethical, others do not.