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Mozilla accepting Bitcoin donations
- BrainInAJar 12y agoNo Dogecoin? Requires an email address? Why not just post a BTC and/or Doge address and be done with it?
- rnhmjoj 12y agoI thought bitcoin was meant to avoid such things. It seems like using bitmessage to send someone your email address.
- lappa 12y agoI would hope Mozilla's ethics prevent them from promoting scams by accepting Dogecoin.
- BrainInAJar 12y agoThey're already accepting scams like bitcoin, why not accept the crytpocurrency that doesn't try to pretend it isn't a joke
- Mandatum 12y agoA little offtopic, has any of the major Bitcoin heists been traced to spending yet? Would be funny to see a portion contribute to a project like this. Especially in the case of Silk Road where no one can really come forward and claim their bitcoin..
- kordless 12y agoI don't think there's any good reason to speculate wildly about the interests of a smallish segment of the market.
- Mandatum 12y agoSorry, was this a reply to the wrong comment? Can you expand?
- kordless 12y agoSure. Thank you for asking. No, it was directly addressing speculative conversation. I'm aware this might be a contentious statement, but frankly I'm tired of the same old conversations about the value of Bitcoin compared to traditional fiat. I much more appreciate conversations about the value of the technology behind the blockchain, and the challenges we can surmount wielding it. Conversations that incite conflict, including (perhaps) your original comment, make me bored and sad when I think about how people approach and understand crypto currencies. As the 'technical luminaries' for the the less technical in the world, I think we owe it to ourselves to not incite FUD here in this forum and then carry it out with us into the world. It's the holidays as well, so it's a time when families gather and tell stories. If we are having a good time bashing on Bitcoin value or relating it to some two bit drug market that the FBI knocked down, we aren't educating on it's value. You are just catering to the fear that is always present with new technologies. Anyway, you are allowed your own thoughts regarding the matter. I apologize if I came off overly aggressive about it. It's important to me!
- Mandatum 12y agoMy comment was out of genuine curiosity. I agree they're not of much technical value and for HN it's closer to "trash" material, however I don't see why we must limit our comments to purely technical concepts. I find the events surrounding Bitcoin, specifically the criminal aspects fascinating. I mean come on, who doesn't love a good heist? Especially one that's been committed anonymously and thus far turned up completely untraceable. No, the content of the discussion generally isn't very intellectual, however it does incite and bring about thought-provoking and technically interesting arguments. I never really put forth my thoughts on anything relating to Bitcoin when I posted that comment. I was merely asking if there'd been work done around tracing Bitcoin theft.. I don't think I'm inciting FUD whilst asking a question. I understand that the talk of crime and theft in Bitcoin could become tiresome for you and other technically and academically interested parties, however my fascination with such topics isn't limited to Bitcoin. I just don't think you should accuse me of speculation or inciting FUD when all I posed was a question. Also to be fair, I had labelled my comment offtopic.
- finnn 12y agois anyone else seeing a broken image in the middle where I assume what should be the "pay with bitcoin" button is? https://i.imgur.com/9oAmKDl.png https://i.imgur.com/9oAmKDl.png
- dthakur 12y agoYes -- 404 from coinbase https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee936185fdf9a88e3a28cc685fb9b7.png https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee93618...
- Jake232 12y agoSeeing the same here, links to an asset on CoinBase. https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee936185fdf9a88e3a28cc685fb9b7.png https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee93618...
- adrianmacneil 12y agoThanks for the heads up. It seems Mozilla were hotlinking directly to our digested button image URLs, which recently changed. We're reverting to the old images now to fix this issue.
- robbyking 12y agoIt looks like Coinbase's CDN uses unique identifiers for static assets to prevent caching, and the one Mozilla used for that image is out of date. Broken: https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee936185fdf9a88e3a28cc685fb9b7.png https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large-36ee93618... Working: https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large.png https://coinbase.com/assets/buttons/donation_large.png
- davidascher 12y agoUgh. Thanks, will get folks to look at what happened.
- t1m 12y agoWhen you hit the "Donate" link, it asks you for your email addy. IANAL, but why not accept anonymous donations?
- ChrisAntaki 12y agoWhen Coinbase gives the option to donate directly to a Bitcoin address, "1GnkMmEjTHHrw8BaWzBxEzuNweUwhmwGrg" in this case, is that a wallet Mozilla owns?
- MatthewMcDonald 12y agoIt looks like a new address is generated for each transaction.
- ChrisAntaki 12y agoOh, good to know. I wish we knew Mozilla's permanent Bitcoin address.
- teod 12y agoI don't think that's how it works. From my understanding, a new address is typically used for every new transaction. What you are interested in is their wallet which would be the sum of their addresses. On the other hand, it appears that they are using Coinbase. In that case I'm not sure Mozilla would have direct access to a wallet. Instead I imagine that Coinbase keeps track of their balance which is divided among Coinbase's wallets (sort of like a bank). I'm not too well versed however, so maybe someone else can clear this up.
- Arnavion 12y agoCorrect. Bitcoin addresses are more like invoice numbers than account numbers. You're expected to use a different one for each transaction so that you can tell them apart.
- taariqlewis 12y agoContributed to Mozilla for the first time ever with Bitcoin. Very fast/easy.
- lkesteloot 12y agoOkay honest question: How did you get bitcoins? I've looked around and my options seem to be to give my CC number to a shady website or to meet someone in person and give them cash. Is there really no safe-sounding option?
- yafujifide 12y agoHave you tried Circle? They're funded with over $17 million [1], so I don't think they qualify as shady, and I'm pretty sure they let you buy with a credit card. [1] edit. Double checked and the looks like it's $17 million: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/26/bitcoin-gets-another-boost-as-circle-internet-raises-17-million/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/26/bitcoin-gets-another-boost-...
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- walden42 12y agoCompletely free with ACH purchases.
- JoshTriplett 12y agoI found Coinbase quite painless.
- mkramlich 12y agoCoinbase
- blhack 12y agoCoinbase supports ACH transfers. They're hardly anything I would call a "shady" website. They're also backed by ycombinator and Andreessen Horowitz. https://www.coinbase.com/about https://www.coinbase.com/about
- steven2012 12y agoI'm curious why Mozilla needs contributions. Previously they were getting $300M a year from Google and they were required to spend that every year, from what I've been told from employees that I know. Everything I've heard from them is that Mozilla is a very wasteful company. They spend a bunch of money on things like boondoggles to Europe for the staff, apartments in Paris that anyone can book, employees sitting around with almost no work to do, etc. They also have really lucrative bonuses (>40%/yr) for employees that push salaries over $200k for senior engineers, so I'm just wondering why they even bother with donations? I'm assuming that their contract with Yahoo is even more lucrative than $300M/year, so they must have a lot of money to spend, why worry about donations that might only reach a small percentage of that?
- Mandatum 12y agoHave the terms of the agreement between Google and Mozilla been made public regarding that? Were they limited to what they could spend that money on?
- fabrice_d 12y ago<disclaimer>I'm a Moco employee</disclaimer> I don't know who told you that Mozilla was required to spend all $300M each year, but looking at the financial from past years will show you that it's not that clear (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2013/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2013/) The apartment in Paris is actually a way to spend less compared to sending people that visit the Paris office to hotels. Bonuses are not >40%/yr, this is the absolute maximum, and it has never been 40% per year in the last 4 years. It's true that compensation at Mozilla is good, but you need that to be competitive on the job market. Donations are important for the Mozilla Foundation to keep a non-profit status. The Yahoo! deal is a Mozilla Corporation deal, so that's a different story (Mo Corp pay taxes like any company).
- mook 12y agoYep, they have already went through one IRS audit because too much of their income was concentrated on too few sources (makes it look like a front set up by those sources for tax purposes). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#IRS_audit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#IRS_audit for example. (Disclaimer: not a MoCo/MoFo employee)
- eglover 12y agoNot on the main donation page. If it's hidden away in a nook it doesn't count.
- wingerlang 12y agoWhat part of the title "Mozilla accepting Bitcoin donations" is false then?
- eglover 12y agoGo to Mozilla.org and get to their donation page from there. No bitcoin.
- davidgerard 12y agoWhen Wikimedia started accepting Bitcoin, I was utterly unsurprised that the very first reaction from Bitcoiners was to complain about how WMF was doing it. You'd almost think their interest was in promoting Bitcoin rather than in donating to the charity in question.
- eglover 12y agoNo, seriously. Bitcoin users donate more to causes. Why would they require a separate Google search just to donate in a widely used currency? What's the point of creating a separate page? It's simply bad practice. It seems to me you just want to jump on a soap box. Go blog about it. But when I want to donate to something I go to the website and click 'Donate' and I USE THE OPTIONS THERE...
- vectorpush 12y ago> Bitcoin users donate more to causes. No evidence of this. > Why would they require a separate Google search just to donate in a widely used currency? It's not "widely used" for any fair definition of the term, it's an upcoming niche at best. > But when I want to donate to something I go to the website and click 'Donate' and I USE THE OPTIONS THERE... Fair enough. It's really up to you to decide what's more important, donating to the cause or bitcoin evangelism; if you're more concerned with the former rather than the latter, it shouldn't matter where the bitcoin option is located so long as you can use it to make your contribution.