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This just seems like a blatant submarine article [1] - anyone who upvoted want to share what they found interesting about it? [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/s

This just seems like a blatant submarine article [1] - anyone who upvoted want to share what they found interesting about it? [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

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Xylakant 12y ago
I haven't upvoted but found it mildly interesting. Point that I found interesting were mostly: * one company dominates the market for zippers by essentially capturing the middle ground of "good product with a wide range of options, reasonably priced and flawless execution" * the example of a company dominating the market with what seems to counter the trend of outsourcing, producing everything in house, which means keeping the knowledge in and full control over the quality. A bit like Apple in that regard. It's more like a lightweight snack for my brain than a full meal, useless but interesting knowlege, but I also read Now I Know. May or may not be a submarine, but made me check the zippers on my hoodie (YKK :)
- coldpie 12y ago
  Yeah. I found it neat that this company dominates the industry by making a quality product, not by acquiring and enforcing a centuries-long monopoly on an idea.
tim333 12y ago
I upvoted. I didn't know that stuff and found it interesting. There's something inspiring about a company dominating for years by dedicating to quality engineering rather than marketing bs. It didn't seem that 'submarine', given they "declined to speak to [the author] for this story". Though you never know.
- Xylakant 12y ago
  Well, that might be a new twist: We fake being independent :)
NateDad 12y ago
I find it fascinating. I had wondered about the YKK on zippers but never bothered to look it up.
jon-wood 12y ago
I've always been curious about why almost everything seems to have a YKK zipper on it. Now, after decades of idly wondering about it, I know.
ozh 12y ago
submarine article yet satisfyingly informative: now that's a win-win :)
checker 12y ago
I began reading the article and looked down at the zipper on my hoodie. I've never looked at my zipper brand before. Lo and behold, YKK. The article pointed out something that I've taken for granted pretty much my entire life.
dreamweapon 12y ago
It's actually a pretty well-written article. And in a way, it reveals to us "the hidden order of things", or at least a nano-scale slice of it.
Semiapies 12y ago
There's reasonable skepticism, and there's paranoia. YKK owns half the market and doesn't market to end-users. It doesn't engage in that whole sphere of PR, much less this form. If this were a PR piece, the reporter might have actually managed to talk to someone from the company. (Submarining doesn't usually involve outright journalistic fraud.) It's just an interesting puff-piece. I was curious and voted it up because I've always seen "YKK zippers" mentioned on any vaguely rugged piece of luggage.

This just seems like a blatant submarine article [1] - anyone who upvoted want to share what they found interesting about it? [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

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Xylakant 12y ago

I haven't upvoted but found it mildly interesting. Point that I found interesting were mostly: * one company dominates the market for zippers by essentially capturing the middle ground of "good product with a wide range of options, reasonably priced and flawless execution" * the example of a company dominating the market with what seems to counter the trend of outsourcing, producing everything in house, which means keeping the knowledge in and full control over the quality. A bit like Apple in that regard. It's more like a lightweight snack for my brain than a full meal, useless but interesting knowlege, but I also read Now I Know. May or may not be a submarine, but made me check the zippers on my hoodie (YKK :)

coldpie 12y ago
Yeah. I found it neat that this company dominates the industry by making a quality product, not by acquiring and enforcing a centuries-long monopoly on an idea.

tim333 12y ago

I upvoted. I didn't know that stuff and found it interesting. There's something inspiring about a company dominating for years by dedicating to quality engineering rather than marketing bs. It didn't seem that 'submarine', given they "declined to speak to [the author] for this story". Though you never know.

Xylakant 12y ago
Well, that might be a new twist: We fake being independent :)

NateDad 12y ago

I find it fascinating. I had wondered about the YKK on zippers but never bothered to look it up.

jon-wood 12y ago

I've always been curious about why almost everything seems to have a YKK zipper on it. Now, after decades of idly wondering about it, I know.

ozh 12y ago

submarine article yet satisfyingly informative: now that's a win-win :)

checker 12y ago

I began reading the article and looked down at the zipper on my hoodie. I've never looked at my zipper brand before. Lo and behold, YKK. The article pointed out something that I've taken for granted pretty much my entire life.

dreamweapon 12y ago

It's actually a pretty well-written article. And in a way, it reveals to us "the hidden order of things", or at least a nano-scale slice of it.

Semiapies 12y ago

There's reasonable skepticism, and there's paranoia. YKK owns half the market and doesn't market to end-users. It doesn't engage in that whole sphere of PR, much less this form. If this were a PR piece, the reporter might have actually managed to talk to someone from the company. (Submarining doesn't usually involve outright journalistic fraud.) It's just an interesting puff-piece. I was curious and voted it up because I've always seen "YKK zippers" mentioned on any vaguely rugged piece of luggage.