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What, precisely, is a "linux database"?

by fixedd 12y ago

pm90 12y ago
Apologies, I meant a database running on a linux system.
- fixedd 12y ago
  Maybe I've just been lucky with the coworkers I've had, or maybe the problems I've been working on aren't as hard as they seem, but in all the jobs I've worked we have never needed someone specifically trained on how to (per your example) manage a MySQL database running on one or more Linux systems. I think I'd argue that any mid-to-senior-level developer who can't manage to figure it out in a few days is underexperienced or undereducated, where "database use" is within their domain.
  - dvanduzer 12y ago
    Yes, you've been lucky. Most of the software we use hasn't existed long enough for real specialization. Hell, there are still people who were alive before software existed. If you ask me, the real problem was whatever legal technicalities allowed vendors to create certification programs for "experts" using their own software.
  - nullspace 12y ago
    > maybe the problems I've been working on aren't as hard as they seem. Most likely this. When you have a horizontally sharded MySQL database that spans multiple datacenters - managing replication, failover and scaling out is not something you would expect most developers to be able to handle. Let alone fine-tuning various kernel parameters, in depth monitoring and other performance tunings. EDIT: Sure most experienced developers would have a high level and abstract idea about various things that may be outta whack - but it takes some one with expertise in the field to go beyond guesses.
    - Aeolun 12y ago
      It's not so much that the developer wouldn't eventually figure it out, but more that the sysop would already know how to do it, saving time (and errors).
  - jameshart 12y ago
    Why would you waste the time of mid-to-senior level developers on managing MySQL databases? Managing databases is an operational overhead. You want to minimize expenditure on it. Developers create IP. You want to maximize investment into that.

What, precisely, is a "linux database"?

by fixedd 12y ago

What, precisely, is a "linux database"?

pm90 12y ago

Apologies, I meant a database running on a linux system.

fixedd 12y ago
Maybe I've just been lucky with the coworkers I've had, or maybe the problems I've been working on aren't as hard as they seem, but in all the jobs I've worked we have never needed someone specifically trained on how to (per your example) manage a MySQL database running on one or more Linux systems. I think I'd argue that any mid-to-senior-level developer who can't manage to figure it out in a few days is underexperienced or undereducated, where "database use" is within their domain.
- dvanduzer 12y ago
  Yes, you've been lucky. Most of the software we use hasn't existed long enough for real specialization. Hell, there are still people who were alive before software existed. If you ask me, the real problem was whatever legal technicalities allowed vendors to create certification programs for "experts" using their own software.
- nullspace 12y ago
  > maybe the problems I've been working on aren't as hard as they seem. Most likely this. When you have a horizontally sharded MySQL database that spans multiple datacenters - managing replication, failover and scaling out is not something you would expect most developers to be able to handle. Let alone fine-tuning various kernel parameters, in depth monitoring and other performance tunings. EDIT: Sure most experienced developers would have a high level and abstract idea about various things that may be outta whack - but it takes some one with expertise in the field to go beyond guesses.
  - Aeolun 12y ago
    It's not so much that the developer wouldn't eventually figure it out, but more that the sysop would already know how to do it, saving time (and errors).
- jameshart 12y ago
  Why would you waste the time of mid-to-senior level developers on managing MySQL databases? Managing databases is an operational overhead. You want to minimize expenditure on it. Developers create IP. You want to maximize investment into that.