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you dont have to use journald. you can send back from journald to syslog (eg rsyslog) and that works well/its easy to do. You can even disable the journald logg
by zobzu 12y ago
you dont have to use journald. you can send back from journald to syslog (eg rsyslog) and that works well/its easy to do. You can even disable the journald logging itself and just have rsyslog (or the logger of your choice).
at my place we kept both journald and have rsyslog to redirect logs to the network. ie our /var/log is relatively empty (rsyslog isnt setup to log to disk) so we look at log on the machine via journald if needed (rarely - since we look at the central log aggregator instead)
- jude- 12y ago> you dont have to use journald. you can send back from journald to syslog That's a contradiction. You're running journald even if it's dead weight.
- digi_owl 12y agoAnd if journald goes belly up, no logs for syslog...
- pjmlp 12y agoAs if syslog cannot go belly up as well.
- feld 12y agoWhen have you ever seen syslog go belly up?
- general_failure 12y agoYou are clearly too young to remember. But don't worry journal will get there
- feld 12y agoThat's the entire point. Syslog has years of stability and reliability. You don't just throw that away, especially for such an important role.
- pjmlp 12y agoCan you assure it is 100% failure proof in all UNIX variants that have one running?
- e12e 12y agoLets assume for the sake of argument that logind (a new codebase) is about as stable as syslog (anyone of which are several years old, well tested). Layering one on top of the other, you now have doubled the chance of one of them going belly up.
- the_mitsuhiko 12y agoAnd if syslog goes belly up no logs. What's your point?
- zobzu 12y agoTechnically its really just a socket dup
- silon3 12y agoUsing sane/standard logging should be the first thing an installer asks before installing systemd based OS. In fact, just make separate .isos for this. (and I like systemd, at least in theory - and running Fedora 20).
- johnny22 12y agoopensuse and debian both continue to log to their respective syslog implementations.