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So how is Chris (et al.) planning to make Light Table a sustainable business (e.g. "pay the bills"). It's great they have the kickstarter money but I haven't s

So how is Chris (et al.) planning to make Light Table a sustainable business (e.g. "pay the bills"). It's great they have the kickstarter money but I haven't seen any announcements on them making this a product for sale. If anything, it appears they are doing the exact OPPOSITE and distancing themselves from the project all together.

debacle 12y ago
Isn't that the norm for kickstarter funded software projects, especially of the open source flavor?
e12e 12y ago
Before asking how, ask "are they planning to turn it into a business?". Neither Emacs, gcc or even Linux have been made into a product. They and many other such products still survive just fine.
- pjmlp 12y ago
  You are forgetting how many companies pump money into them, if anything by paying the salaries of those that work on their free time. I am yet to see "exchange ELisp code by bread" posts.
- dagw 12y ago
  True, but Emacs, gcc and Linux didn't take millions of VC dollars.
  - e12e 12y ago
    Did lighttable? I thought EVE got the VC funding and LT was kickstarted?
- justincormack 12y ago
  Er yes Linux has been made into many products, like those Android phones. Several companies sell gcc as a commercial product, eg for embedded systems - its open source but you pay for support for your CPU architecture etc.
  - e12e 12y ago
    Right, but Linus didn't turn Linux into a product. And Stallmann didn't turn GCC into a product. What you're describing is essentially for the authors not to turn lighttable into a product.
jamii 12y ago
That's a reasonable question, I don't see why it was downvoted. We don't plan to make money from Light Table. We will continue to maintain it but our main focus now is Eve (http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/10/01/beyond-light-table/ http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/10/01/beyond-light-table/). The recent changes are all aimed at making sure Chris isn't a bottleneck on the project - the three biggest contributors were given commit access, the plugin and deployment infrastructure was moved to fit and we removed the CA. There has already been a flurry of improvements as a result.

debacle 12y ago

Isn't that the norm for kickstarter funded software projects, especially of the open source flavor?

e12e 12y ago

Before asking how, ask "are they planning to turn it into a business?". Neither Emacs, gcc or even Linux have been made into a product. They and many other such products still survive just fine.

pjmlp 12y ago
You are forgetting how many companies pump money into them, if anything by paying the salaries of those that work on their free time. I am yet to see "exchange ELisp code by bread" posts.
dagw 12y ago
True, but Emacs, gcc and Linux didn't take millions of VC dollars.
- e12e 12y ago
  Did lighttable? I thought EVE got the VC funding and LT was kickstarted?
justincormack 12y ago
Er yes Linux has been made into many products, like those Android phones. Several companies sell gcc as a commercial product, eg for embedded systems - its open source but you pay for support for your CPU architecture etc.
- e12e 12y ago
  Right, but Linus didn't turn Linux into a product. And Stallmann didn't turn GCC into a product. What you're describing is essentially for the authors not to turn lighttable into a product.

jamii 12y ago

That's a reasonable question, I don't see why it was downvoted. We don't plan to make money from Light Table. We will continue to maintain it but our main focus now is Eve (http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/10/01/beyond-light-table/ http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/10/01/beyond-light-table/). The recent changes are all aimed at making sure Chris isn't a bottleneck on the project - the three biggest contributors were given commit access, the plugin and deployment infrastructure was moved to fit and we removed the CA. There has already been a flurry of improvements as a result.