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Well that definitely takes the 𝕡𝕣𝕚𝕫𝕖 for most noticeable Hacker News submission. Suggestion (if you are author): There are a lot of chars that look like

Well that definitely takes the 𝕡𝕣𝕚𝕫𝕖 for most noticeable Hacker News submission. Suggestion (if you are author): There are a lot of chars that look like another char, often used on the web, so i think that there are more advanced versions to be made. I think i read that a lot of thai signs and cyrillic look like latin chars.

samuellevy 12y ago
Yeah, it's great fun to put a cyrillic "а" into a variable name in code.
- Systemic33 12y ago
  Oh it can get much much worse... have a look at greek questionmark: "[...] canonically decomposes to U+003B ; semicolon making the marks identical in practice." [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark#Greek_question_mark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark#Greek_question_ma...
  - nl 12y ago
    Oh that is awesome! I wonder if Java uses it as a semi-colon too?
    - Systemic33 12y ago
      I have only tested it with javescript, which gave a syntax error.
- solistice 12y ago
  or having your variable names in _𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗 which might be more appearent but none the less annoying. That'd make a nice useless language though. 𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖈 𝖛𝖔𝖎𝖉[] 𝖒𝖆𝖎𝖓(𝖘𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖌[] 𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖘) { 𝕮𝖔𝖓𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖊.𝖂𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖊𝕷𝖎𝖓𝖊("𝕳𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖔 𝖂𝖊𝖑𝖙"); } // 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖓𝖘𝖕𝖗𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖊 "𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗" 𝕰𝖎𝖓𝖘 𝕻𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖙 𝕹𝖚𝖑𝖑 𝕹𝖚𝖑𝖑
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  - jevgeni 12y ago
    OMG, yes: # 𝕲𝖊𝖒ä𝖘𝖘 𝕽𝖊𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖘𝖆𝖚𝖘𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖚𝖘𝖘 𝖋ü𝖗 𝕬𝖑𝖌𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖍𝖒𝖎𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖊 𝕬𝖗𝖇𝖊𝖎𝖙 𝖐𝖑𝖆𝖘𝖘𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖟𝖊𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖘𝖒𝖚𝖘: 𝖉𝖊𝖋 __𝖆𝖓𝖋𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓__(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙, 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊): 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 = 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 𝖉𝖊𝖋 __𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖓𝖚𝖗__(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙): 𝖟𝖚𝖗ü𝖈𝖐𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖓 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 𝖉𝖊𝖋 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖓(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙, 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊=𝕹𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖊𝖝𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖟): 𝖉𝖗𝖚𝖈𝖐𝖊𝖓("𝕲𝖚𝖙𝖊𝖓 𝕿𝖆𝖌, " + 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊) 𝖟𝖚𝖗ü𝖈𝖐𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖓 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖗 = 𝕭𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖟𝖊𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖘𝖒𝖚𝖘("𝕳𝖆𝖓𝖘-𝕻𝖊𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍" ) 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖗.𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖓()
    - solistice 12y ago
      I've always found that attempts at germanization of subjects where English is the lingua franca are incredibly amusing. Further germanization of German words, such as the conversion of "Nase" to "𝕲𝖊𝖘𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖘𝖟𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖊𝖓" also is at least worth a chuckle despite the solemn background that spawned the movement. 𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖎𝖌𝖐𝖊𝖎𝖙𝖘𝖇𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖙 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖊𝖓 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖚𝖗𝖊 | 𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖊𝖘 | 𝕶𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖆𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖓 | 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖊 | 𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖌𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖚𝖓𝖌 | 𝕭𝖊𝖗𝖚𝖋𝖘𝖋𝖎𝖓𝖉𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖇𝖙𝖊𝖎𝖑𝖚𝖓𝖌 | 𝕰𝖎𝖓𝖗𝖊𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖊
      - jevgeni 12y ago
        𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖎𝖌𝖐𝖊𝖎𝖙𝖘𝖇𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖙 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖊𝖓 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖚𝖗𝖊 is seriously epic.
      - 1ris 12y ago
        >"Nase" to "𝕲𝖊𝖘𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖘𝖟𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖊𝖓" Which is bullshit and just a parody on linguistic purism. I could write more, but i have to configure the Zuwachssicherung of my Klapprechner over DFÜ.
- dfkf 12y ago
  If you happen to use cyrillic in your source code (for comments or even strings) and constantly switch between latin and cyrillic, then this actually happens with а "c" letter, because both latin and cyrillic "c" occupy the same button. And that's not fun, btw.
  - deleted 12y ago
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  - pavel_lishin 12y ago
    Depends on which keyboard layout you use, of course. Russian is my first language, but English is my primary language, and I never had my chance to practice typing using the standard Russian keyboard layout, so I almost always use the "Phonetic" layout - where the latin c is the cyrillic ц. (Also, w is ш, and who the hell remembers what []\-= map to - always trial and error for me to find южэьъ.)
- gegenschall 12y ago
  Well Python 2 "protects" you from silly things like that and throws a syntax error. In [4]: class АnotherClass(): ...: pass File "<ipython-input-4-ad6e67ea5e19>", line 1 class АnotherClass(): ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
  - marcosdumay 12y ago
    Add a file encoding directive[1] at the begining of your file, and you can shoot at as many of your feet as you want. [1] PEP 0263: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/
    - rspeer 12y ago
      In Python 2 that only works within string literals, though.
- kirushik 12y ago
  Russian government officials are obliged to put all their purchases on the online tender platform. So they are using this trick (but in the opposite direction, latin `a` instead of cyrillic `а`) to avoid undesired competitors from entering those biddings and lowering the purchase prices (and not paying kickbacks, obviously). https://navalny-en.livejournal.com/52565.html https://navalny-en.livejournal.com/52565.html
  - stax012 12y ago
    Huh. I'm really surprised there isn't a Russian clone of tender already.
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thaumasiotes 12y ago
Cyrillic, sure. But Thai? Their alphabet is credited to one พ่อขุนรามคำแหงมหาราช. I've never thought there was any resemblance between Thai symbols and Latin ones, but... judge for yourself, I guess? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_alphabet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_alphabet
- contingencies 12y ago
  Credited is a strong word. AFAIK linguists agree it was copied largely from Khmer (Cambodian).
  - thaumasiotes 12y ago
    Would you really mind if I said that the Greek alphabet was credited to one Κάδμος? We know that's not true, but it doesn't change the legend (and indeed, the legend of Cadmus explicitly states that the Greek alphabet was derived from the Phoenician one...).
    - contingencies 12y ago
      Both Thai and Khmer are Indic abugida scripts that derive (just like Burmese, Lao, Sinhalese, Balinese, etc.) from Brahmi. Claiming any of these scripts is one person's work is displaying abject ignorance of one of the most significant families of writing in human history.
      - byEngineer 12y ago
        In your personal opinion, of course
scott_s 12y ago
I think the original submission announcing unicode support may win that prize: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111100
- gegenschall 12y ago
  Wow, that page crashes Chromium (Linux, 38.0.2125.111) every time I open it.
jmhobbs 12y ago
These are called Homoglyphs, right? I remember reading an article about phishing that used these characters to register almost perfect looking domain names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoglyph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoglyph

samuellevy 12y ago

Yeah, it's great fun to put a cyrillic "а" into a variable name in code.

Systemic33 12y ago
Oh it can get much much worse... have a look at greek questionmark: "[...] canonically decomposes to U+003B ; semicolon making the marks identical in practice." [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark#Greek_question_mark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_mark#Greek_question_ma...
- nl 12y ago
  Oh that is awesome! I wonder if Java uses it as a semi-colon too?
  - Systemic33 12y ago
    I have only tested it with javescript, which gave a syntax error.
solistice 12y ago
or having your variable names in _𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗 which might be more appearent but none the less annoying. That'd make a nice useless language though. 𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖈 𝖛𝖔𝖎𝖉[] 𝖒𝖆𝖎𝖓(𝖘𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖌[] 𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖘) { 𝕮𝖔𝖓𝖘𝖔𝖑𝖊.𝖂𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖊𝕷𝖎𝖓𝖊("𝕳𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖔 𝖂𝖊𝖑𝖙"); } // 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖓𝖘𝖕𝖗𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖊 "𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗" 𝕰𝖎𝖓𝖘 𝕻𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖙 𝕹𝖚𝖑𝖑 𝕹𝖚𝖑𝖑
- deleted 12y ago
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- jevgeni 12y ago
  OMG, yes: # 𝕲𝖊𝖒ä𝖘𝖘 𝕽𝖊𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖘𝖆𝖚𝖘𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖚𝖘𝖘 𝖋ü𝖗 𝕬𝖑𝖌𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖍𝖒𝖎𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖊 𝕬𝖗𝖇𝖊𝖎𝖙 𝖐𝖑𝖆𝖘𝖘𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖟𝖊𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖘𝖒𝖚𝖘: 𝖉𝖊𝖋 __𝖆𝖓𝖋𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓__(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙, 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊): 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 = 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 𝖉𝖊𝖋 __𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖓𝖚𝖗__(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙): 𝖟𝖚𝖗ü𝖈𝖐𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖓 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊 𝖉𝖊𝖋 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖓(𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙, 𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊=𝕹𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖊𝖝𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖟): 𝖉𝖗𝖚𝖈𝖐𝖊𝖓("𝕲𝖚𝖙𝖊𝖓 𝕿𝖆𝖌, " + 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙.𝖁𝖔𝖗𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖊) 𝖟𝖚𝖗ü𝖈𝖐𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖓 𝖘𝖊𝖑𝖇𝖘𝖙 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖗 = 𝕭𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖟𝖊𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖇𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖘𝖒𝖚𝖘("𝕳𝖆𝖓𝖘-𝕻𝖊𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍" ) 𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖗.𝖇𝖊𝖌𝖗ü𝖘𝖘𝖊𝖓()
  - solistice 12y ago
    I've always found that attempts at germanization of subjects where English is the lingua franca are incredibly amusing. Further germanization of German words, such as the conversion of "Nase" to "𝕲𝖊𝖘𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖘𝖟𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖊𝖓" also is at least worth a chuckle despite the solemn background that spawned the movement. 𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖎𝖌𝖐𝖊𝖎𝖙𝖘𝖇𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖙 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖊𝖓 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖚𝖗𝖊 | 𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖊𝖘 | 𝕶𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖘𝖆𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖓 | 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖊 | 𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖌𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖚𝖓𝖌 | 𝕭𝖊𝖗𝖚𝖋𝖘𝖋𝖎𝖓𝖉𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖆𝖇𝖙𝖊𝖎𝖑𝖚𝖓𝖌 | 𝕰𝖎𝖓𝖗𝖊𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖊
    - jevgeni 12y ago
      𝕹𝖊𝖚𝖎𝖌𝖐𝖊𝖎𝖙𝖘𝖇𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖙 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖚𝖓𝖐𝖔𝖓𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖊𝖓 𝕽𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖒𝖆𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖚𝖗𝖊 is seriously epic.
    - 1ris 12y ago
      >"Nase" to "𝕲𝖊𝖘𝖎𝖈𝖍𝖙𝖘𝖟𝖎𝖓𝖐𝖊𝖓" Which is bullshit and just a parody on linguistic purism. I could write more, but i have to configure the Zuwachssicherung of my Klapprechner over DFÜ.
dfkf 12y ago
If you happen to use cyrillic in your source code (for comments or even strings) and constantly switch between latin and cyrillic, then this actually happens with а "c" letter, because both latin and cyrillic "c" occupy the same button. And that's not fun, btw.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- pavel_lishin 12y ago
  Depends on which keyboard layout you use, of course. Russian is my first language, but English is my primary language, and I never had my chance to practice typing using the standard Russian keyboard layout, so I almost always use the "Phonetic" layout - where the latin c is the cyrillic ц. (Also, w is ш, and who the hell remembers what []\-= map to - always trial and error for me to find южэьъ.)
gegenschall 12y ago
Well Python 2 "protects" you from silly things like that and throws a syntax error. In [4]: class АnotherClass(): ...: pass File "<ipython-input-4-ad6e67ea5e19>", line 1 class АnotherClass(): ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
- marcosdumay 12y ago
  Add a file encoding directive[1] at the begining of your file, and you can shoot at as many of your feet as you want. [1] PEP 0263: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/
  - rspeer 12y ago
    In Python 2 that only works within string literals, though.
kirushik 12y ago
Russian government officials are obliged to put all their purchases on the online tender platform. So they are using this trick (but in the opposite direction, latin `a` instead of cyrillic `а`) to avoid undesired competitors from entering those biddings and lowering the purchase prices (and not paying kickbacks, obviously). https://navalny-en.livejournal.com/52565.html https://navalny-en.livejournal.com/52565.html
- stax012 12y ago
  Huh. I'm really surprised there isn't a Russian clone of tender already.

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thaumasiotes 12y ago

Cyrillic, sure. But Thai? Their alphabet is credited to one พ่อขุนรามคำแหงมหาราช. I've never thought there was any resemblance between Thai symbols and Latin ones, but... judge for yourself, I guess? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_alphabet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_alphabet

contingencies 12y ago
Credited is a strong word. AFAIK linguists agree it was copied largely from Khmer (Cambodian).
- thaumasiotes 12y ago
  Would you really mind if I said that the Greek alphabet was credited to one Κάδμος? We know that's not true, but it doesn't change the legend (and indeed, the legend of Cadmus explicitly states that the Greek alphabet was derived from the Phoenician one...).
  - contingencies 12y ago
    Both Thai and Khmer are Indic abugida scripts that derive (just like Burmese, Lao, Sinhalese, Balinese, etc.) from Brahmi. Claiming any of these scripts is one person's work is displaying abject ignorance of one of the most significant families of writing in human history.
    - byEngineer 12y ago
      In your personal opinion, of course

scott_s 12y ago

I think the original submission announcing unicode support may win that prize: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=111100

gegenschall 12y ago
Wow, that page crashes Chromium (Linux, 38.0.2125.111) every time I open it.

jmhobbs 12y ago

These are called Homoglyphs, right? I remember reading an article about phishing that used these characters to register almost perfect looking domain names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoglyph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoglyph