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They seem computer generated, and then photoshoped over the electron microscope images. They seem too perfec for that size, and I don't see how they are support

by omegant 12y ago

They seem computer generated, and then photoshoped over the electron microscope images. They seem too perfec for that size, and I don't see how they are supported on the surface. Is there any other picture or article that shows the process and the results?

Osmium 12y ago
> I don't see how they are supported on the surface I can't speak for how these specifically were positioned, but in general I don't see a problem with it. It looks like they're supported by gravity, and under vacuum the surfaces are likely going to be 'sticky' anyway due to electrostatic forces. As for the positioning, micromanipulators are common in electron microscopes and should be capable of it, though they're usually used for different purposes!
- marcosdumay 12y ago
  Things that size aren't positioned by gravity at all. Surfaces are sticky, but the environment is too. It's hard to imagine what those figurines could be made of to stick that well to a cell wall - and how to 3d print whatever material that is. I also call it a hoax.
agumonkey 12y ago
I'm not convinced either, it looks like something Intel or IBM would brag about and yet it's just some artistic venture ... Someone just learned how to play with Maxwell Render. I call hoax.
- mcs 12y ago
  Considering the artist says they were lost by the scientist manning the electron scanning microscope accidentally placing his thumb on the glass, and didn't mention what the scientist team that created the sculptures thought of this (or if they could make more), I'd lean towards hoax story. There are several other glaring inconsistencies in the artist's story. He just says to trust him that they were there, and that people love to hear stories :)
geographomics 12y ago
The images showing them stuck to various other microscopic objects are manipulated [1], but the technique is real. For example: http://www.wophotonics.com/applications/polymerization/direct-laser-writing/ http://www.wophotonics.com/applications/polymerization/direc... [1] The ant's head image is exactly the same one as here, with the SEM text overlay cropped out: http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=15041 http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=150..., the eye of the needle is identical to the one on this page: http://www.aber.ac.uk/bioimage/image/image.htm http://www.aber.ac.uk/bioimage/image/image.htm, and the human hair is an image reversal of this one: http://www.d.umn.edu/news/2008/August/01-A.html http://www.d.umn.edu/news/2008/August/01-A.html.

by omegant 12y ago

Osmium 12y ago

> I don't see how they are supported on the surface I can't speak for how these specifically were positioned, but in general I don't see a problem with it. It looks like they're supported by gravity, and under vacuum the surfaces are likely going to be 'sticky' anyway due to electrostatic forces. As for the positioning, micromanipulators are common in electron microscopes and should be capable of it, though they're usually used for different purposes!

marcosdumay 12y ago
Things that size aren't positioned by gravity at all. Surfaces are sticky, but the environment is too. It's hard to imagine what those figurines could be made of to stick that well to a cell wall - and how to 3d print whatever material that is. I also call it a hoax.

agumonkey 12y ago

I'm not convinced either, it looks like something Intel or IBM would brag about and yet it's just some artistic venture ... Someone just learned how to play with Maxwell Render. I call hoax.

mcs 12y ago
Considering the artist says they were lost by the scientist manning the electron scanning microscope accidentally placing his thumb on the glass, and didn't mention what the scientist team that created the sculptures thought of this (or if they could make more), I'd lean towards hoax story. There are several other glaring inconsistencies in the artist's story. He just says to trust him that they were there, and that people love to hear stories :)

geographomics 12y ago

The images showing them stuck to various other microscopic objects are manipulated [1], but the technique is real. For example: http://www.wophotonics.com/applications/polymerization/direct-laser-writing/ http://www.wophotonics.com/applications/polymerization/direc... [1] The ant's head image is exactly the same one as here, with the SEM text overlay cropped out: http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=15041 http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=150..., the eye of the needle is identical to the one on this page: http://www.aber.ac.uk/bioimage/image/image.htm http://www.aber.ac.uk/bioimage/image/image.htm, and the human hair is an image reversal of this one: http://www.d.umn.edu/news/2008/August/01-A.html http://www.d.umn.edu/news/2008/August/01-A.html.