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This is why Ubuntu and other Linux distributions are still better. They actually get bugs fixed. I sometimes have to patch the sources with change sets from HE

This is why Ubuntu and other Linux distributions are still better. They actually get bugs fixed. I sometimes have to patch the sources with change sets from HEAD or STABLE to get bug fixes.

takeda 12y ago
Interesting, my experience with Ubuntu (2007-2010) was that each time I run update it simply replaced old bugs with new ones.
icantthinkofone 12y ago
Of course things get fixed. And they don't bring the system down like they do in Ubuntu and other Linux distributions.
- farawayea 12y ago
  Perhaps you could also take a quick look at my other reply regarding qlogic. My system is still crashing consistently with a fully updated 10.0. It's only a question of time before I find something which crashes 10.1.
- cbd1984 12y ago
  > And they don't bring the system down like they do in Ubuntu and other Linux distributions. They don't bring the system down in Linux, either. Stop spreading FUD.
  - farawayea 12y ago
    No, they're right. Linux systems don't panic because of broken drivers after an update, they keep running properly. FreeBSD sometimes completely stops booting on your hardware or turns unstable for no good reason. (search on google for posts from people who can't boot FreeBSD 8.x on hardware which was running 6.x or 7.x without the slightest bug) FreeBSD can crash your system because of an unstable driver after a major upgrade like 9.2 to 9.3. You can see they're right, "FreeBSD doesn't take your system down like Linux", it's much worse.
teacup50 12y ago
What are you talking about? FreeBSD ships fixes for errata and security issues.
- farawayea 12y ago
  nope. only sec patches are applied. Updates are infrequent. qlogic drivers had bugs in 10.0 which crash the system. Fully updated 10.0 is still affected.
  - teacup50 12y ago
    And now we have 10.1. You're speaking nonsense.
    - farawayea 12y ago
      I'm most certainly not, miss/mister. The point holds for 10.1. A bug in 10.1 will only be fixed in 10.2.

This is why Ubuntu and other Linux distributions are still better. They actually get bugs fixed. I sometimes have to patch the sources with change sets from HEAD or STABLE to get bug fixes.

takeda 12y ago

Interesting, my experience with Ubuntu (2007-2010) was that each time I run update it simply replaced old bugs with new ones.

icantthinkofone 12y ago

Of course things get fixed. And they don't bring the system down like they do in Ubuntu and other Linux distributions.

farawayea 12y ago
Perhaps you could also take a quick look at my other reply regarding qlogic. My system is still crashing consistently with a fully updated 10.0. It's only a question of time before I find something which crashes 10.1.
cbd1984 12y ago
> And they don't bring the system down like they do in Ubuntu and other Linux distributions. They don't bring the system down in Linux, either. Stop spreading FUD.
- farawayea 12y ago
  No, they're right. Linux systems don't panic because of broken drivers after an update, they keep running properly. FreeBSD sometimes completely stops booting on your hardware or turns unstable for no good reason. (search on google for posts from people who can't boot FreeBSD 8.x on hardware which was running 6.x or 7.x without the slightest bug) FreeBSD can crash your system because of an unstable driver after a major upgrade like 9.2 to 9.3. You can see they're right, "FreeBSD doesn't take your system down like Linux", it's much worse.

teacup50 12y ago

What are you talking about? FreeBSD ships fixes for errata and security issues.

farawayea 12y ago
nope. only sec patches are applied. Updates are infrequent. qlogic drivers had bugs in 10.0 which crash the system. Fully updated 10.0 is still affected.
- teacup50 12y ago
  And now we have 10.1. You're speaking nonsense.
  - farawayea 12y ago
    I'm most certainly not, miss/mister. The point holds for 10.1. A bug in 10.1 will only be fixed in 10.2.