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The same Sweden was basically sleeping when russian planes contested swedish aerospace, and danish F16's had to act on it, and show the russians the door out. S

The same Sweden was basically sleeping when russian planes contested swedish aerospace, and danish F16's had to act on it, and show the russians the door out. Swedish military isn't exactly famous for being on the ready and deliver on threats. It's so relaxed, to the point that its a running joke among neighbour nations. Source: I'm from denmark, and lived in sweden for 6 years up until 3 years ago, and my father has lots of nordic military contacts.

aragot 12y ago
> so relaxed, to the point that it's a running joke "One month"! The article says Sweden has proof of intrusion "in October". If they had gathered enough information a month ago, why didn't they issue a diplomatic protest? Or did it take them one month to gather the information?
- ptr 12y ago
  To whom would they issue this diplomatic protest? There's no proof which country this sub was from. > The same Sweden was basically sleeping when russian planes contested swedish aerospace I don't know why it matters, but yeah, that happened once. The QRF has been improved since then. The reason why the Swedish Air Force didn't respond quickly enough was that the defence has been all but dismantled since the 90's due to "peace in our time". Both the Minister of Defence and the Prime Minister said today that Sweden will defend its borders with all means necessary. It seems we've woken up.
- alkonaut 12y ago
  Because while they are probably quite sure about who did it (The one non allied state with sub capability operating in the Baltic, my guess), they don't have any proof that is good enough to use in a diplomatic protest.
pbhjpbhj 12y ago
>danish F16's had to act on it // Because? Some jets flew over that caused no harm to anyone, wasn't probably even seen by any civilians. Is that a reason to retaliate with a show of force - or had they already used diplomatic channels to tell them that this was not allowed? This sounds like you want to start WW III because someone stepped on your toes at the bar. Sweden perhaps don't think that some other country swinging their dick is a reason to get in to armed aggression.
- Systemic33 12y ago
  It's a pretty standard procedure i've been told. It is kinda like checking someone's reflexes... A sort of diplomatic dance of sorts.

aragot 12y ago

> so relaxed, to the point that it's a running joke "One month"! The article says Sweden has proof of intrusion "in October". If they had gathered enough information a month ago, why didn't they issue a diplomatic protest? Or did it take them one month to gather the information?

ptr 12y ago
To whom would they issue this diplomatic protest? There's no proof which country this sub was from. > The same Sweden was basically sleeping when russian planes contested swedish aerospace I don't know why it matters, but yeah, that happened once. The QRF has been improved since then. The reason why the Swedish Air Force didn't respond quickly enough was that the defence has been all but dismantled since the 90's due to "peace in our time". Both the Minister of Defence and the Prime Minister said today that Sweden will defend its borders with all means necessary. It seems we've woken up.
alkonaut 12y ago
Because while they are probably quite sure about who did it (The one non allied state with sub capability operating in the Baltic, my guess), they don't have any proof that is good enough to use in a diplomatic protest.

pbhjpbhj 12y ago

>danish F16's had to act on it // Because? Some jets flew over that caused no harm to anyone, wasn't probably even seen by any civilians. Is that a reason to retaliate with a show of force - or had they already used diplomatic channels to tell them that this was not allowed? This sounds like you want to start WW III because someone stepped on your toes at the bar. Sweden perhaps don't think that some other country swinging their dick is a reason to get in to armed aggression.

Systemic33 12y ago
It's a pretty standard procedure i've been told. It is kinda like checking someone's reflexes... A sort of diplomatic dance of sorts.