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of course not, that would be the worker's council and the union. you silly Americans :) HR employees can be fired, hence are under pressure, hence are on the

of course not, that would be the worker's council and the union. you silly Americans :) HR employees can be fired, hence are under pressure, hence are on the side of the company. Works council members in developed nations are protected, cannot be fired on a whim and get fully paid while fighting for you. As a European working in the US it feels like time travel when it comes to work, health, banking. Just had a discussion about why Google Health has failed - while Austrian citizens already enjoy an electronic health record, tracking their medication across doctors. So many patriots here will defend the US as the greatest country, no matter what - but actively oppose the very fabric of this nation, the government, with its rules and regulations to protect the people. Very hard to wrap my head around this.

blumkvist 12y ago
Worker Unions? You mean the mob?
- e12e 12y ago
  The US has a proud history of leveraging criminals for discrediting unions. And the legacy in popular culture is that unions lead to organized crime. Good luck in your reciding, sorry "recovering", economy.
- opendais 12y ago
  Do you eat meat? 'cause a number of the rendering plants that produce animal feed are still mob owned.
  - throwawayornot 12y ago
    link?
    - opendais 12y ago
      "Report to the President and the Attorney General" https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/102922NCJRS.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/102922NCJRS.pdf "Organized Crime and the Meat Industry: A Study in Competition " http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2m3avv/i_am_mike_rowe_and_i_cant_seem_to_hold_a_job_ive/cm0k6wz http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2m3avv/i_am_mike_rowe_... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jackson_(gangster) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jackson_(gangster) It was partially sarcastic, partially not. In 2014, its about as relevant as complaining about links between the Mafia & Unions. They used to be connected in places but it was relatively small scale (e.g. local) and not on the scale people like the parent claimed.
      - throwawayornot 12y ago
        fair enough. thanks for the reply!
    - psykovsky 12y ago
      You are the link. You eat mob owned meat.
Plough_Jogger 12y ago
The government is not 'the very fabric of this nation'.
- Sammi 12y ago
  You know the government is supposed to be representatives of the people, right? Of the people for the people. I'm worrying for the US and the world, because Americans are so anti government. Peoples rights aren't being respected.
  - Strang 12y ago
    Speaking as an anti-government American, I'm against the current form of American government because it has strayed so far from the limited government principles on which this country was founded. It's literally impossible for a government this large to be representative.
    - monochr 12y ago
      Oh you mean the Articles of Confederation which were so poorly thought it the country was imploding after 10 years so badly that they had to start from scratch and write a whole new document called the constitution to fix the mess of constant rebellions? Is that the founding principles you mean? Because George Washington had nothing good to say about them after having tried them during his terms in office.
      - tg3 12y ago
        Not saying that I agree with GP, but the US was much less centralized during the early days of the Constitution than it is today. Part of that is practical - fast communication makes it easier to centralize. But over many years through a combination of Supreme Court decisions, legislation, and executive decisions, authority has become more concentrated in the hands of the Federal government than in the state/local government, or left to the individual. That's not to say that it's all bad - civil rights, for example was a hugely important movement only made possible by moving some power away from the states. But to deny that it has happened isn't right either.
drstewart 12y ago
>while Austrian citizens already enjoy an electronic health record, tracking their medication across doctors. And if you understand why Austrian citizens' tracking doesn't extend across all of the EU, maybe you'll also understand why it doesn't happen across the US. What feels like time travel is going to Europe and having to use cash everywhere in Portugal because cards are so rarely accepted outside of big chains. Felt very backwards.
- dashboardfront 12y ago
  Borders between states are hardly the same as borders between countries, and Portugal is not representative of Europe. Europe is a region with multiple cultures, languages, countries, and governments.
  - boombip 12y ago
    Well that's the point that he/she is trying to make isn't it? States in the US are more like to countries within the EU. That's in part why I think a lot of people from the US refer to 'Europe' as a cohesive entity, because in many ways it is. Different states and different countries are at different levels of progress.
    - dashboardfront 12y ago
      States in the US =/= Countries within the EU. Europe is really not a cohesive entity. Different languages, different history (stretching back a thousand+ years), completely different value systems, cultures, etc. Trying to insinuate that the degree of differentiation between states is the same as between Europe countries is utter absurdity. Clearly, trying to track healthcare across different governments with different languages and different cultures is much harder than trying to track healthcare across different states with the same language, the same national government, and a very similar culture.
      - jessaustin 12y ago
        Culture and that other stuff you mention are important, but so is size and distance. In the same way that someone who moved from Austria to Scotland would be tolerant of differences in official services, so is someone who moves from Seattle to Orlando.
gretful 12y ago
because rules and regulations are links in the chains that bind you. rules and regulations created the corporations, rules and regulations tax you, rules and regulations throw you in jail for imbibing in herbs...

blumkvist 12y ago

Worker Unions? You mean the mob?

e12e 12y ago
The US has a proud history of leveraging criminals for discrediting unions. And the legacy in popular culture is that unions lead to organized crime. Good luck in your reciding, sorry "recovering", economy.
opendais 12y ago
Do you eat meat? 'cause a number of the rendering plants that produce animal feed are still mob owned.
- throwawayornot 12y ago
  link?
  - opendais 12y ago
    "Report to the President and the Attorney General" https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/102922NCJRS.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/102922NCJRS.pdf "Organized Crime and the Meat Industry: A Study in Competition " http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2m3avv/i_am_mike_rowe_and_i_cant_seem_to_hold_a_job_ive/cm0k6wz http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2m3avv/i_am_mike_rowe_... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jackson_(gangster) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jackson_(gangster) It was partially sarcastic, partially not. In 2014, its about as relevant as complaining about links between the Mafia & Unions. They used to be connected in places but it was relatively small scale (e.g. local) and not on the scale people like the parent claimed.
    - throwawayornot 12y ago
      fair enough. thanks for the reply!
  - psykovsky 12y ago
    You are the link. You eat mob owned meat.

Plough_Jogger 12y ago

The government is not 'the very fabric of this nation'.

Sammi 12y ago
You know the government is supposed to be representatives of the people, right? Of the people for the people. I'm worrying for the US and the world, because Americans are so anti government. Peoples rights aren't being respected.
- Strang 12y ago
  Speaking as an anti-government American, I'm against the current form of American government because it has strayed so far from the limited government principles on which this country was founded. It's literally impossible for a government this large to be representative.
  - monochr 12y ago
    Oh you mean the Articles of Confederation which were so poorly thought it the country was imploding after 10 years so badly that they had to start from scratch and write a whole new document called the constitution to fix the mess of constant rebellions? Is that the founding principles you mean? Because George Washington had nothing good to say about them after having tried them during his terms in office.
    - tg3 12y ago
      Not saying that I agree with GP, but the US was much less centralized during the early days of the Constitution than it is today. Part of that is practical - fast communication makes it easier to centralize. But over many years through a combination of Supreme Court decisions, legislation, and executive decisions, authority has become more concentrated in the hands of the Federal government than in the state/local government, or left to the individual. That's not to say that it's all bad - civil rights, for example was a hugely important movement only made possible by moving some power away from the states. But to deny that it has happened isn't right either.

drstewart 12y ago

>while Austrian citizens already enjoy an electronic health record, tracking their medication across doctors. And if you understand why Austrian citizens' tracking doesn't extend across all of the EU, maybe you'll also understand why it doesn't happen across the US. What feels like time travel is going to Europe and having to use cash everywhere in Portugal because cards are so rarely accepted outside of big chains. Felt very backwards.

dashboardfront 12y ago
Borders between states are hardly the same as borders between countries, and Portugal is not representative of Europe. Europe is a region with multiple cultures, languages, countries, and governments.
- boombip 12y ago
  Well that's the point that he/she is trying to make isn't it? States in the US are more like to countries within the EU. That's in part why I think a lot of people from the US refer to 'Europe' as a cohesive entity, because in many ways it is. Different states and different countries are at different levels of progress.
  - dashboardfront 12y ago
    States in the US =/= Countries within the EU. Europe is really not a cohesive entity. Different languages, different history (stretching back a thousand+ years), completely different value systems, cultures, etc. Trying to insinuate that the degree of differentiation between states is the same as between Europe countries is utter absurdity. Clearly, trying to track healthcare across different governments with different languages and different cultures is much harder than trying to track healthcare across different states with the same language, the same national government, and a very similar culture.
    - jessaustin 12y ago
      Culture and that other stuff you mention are important, but so is size and distance. In the same way that someone who moved from Austria to Scotland would be tolerant of differences in official services, so is someone who moves from Seattle to Orlando.

gretful 12y ago

because rules and regulations are links in the chains that bind you. rules and regulations created the corporations, rules and regulations tax you, rules and regulations throw you in jail for imbibing in herbs...