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XP is 13 years old. When the Blaster worm hit in 2003, the Unix people laughed, because they were immune. The Morris worm was ancient history, because it had

XP is 13 years old. When the Blaster worm hit in 2003, the Unix people laughed, because they were immune. The Morris worm was ancient history, because it had been 15 years since that hit. XP is almost ancient history. You shouldn't be running it, any more than you should've been running something vulnerable to the Morris worm in 2003. edit 'omh makes a good point below

k-mcgrady 12y ago
You shouldn't be running it but a hell of a lot of people and businesses still are. And MS is to blame IMO. The continued extending support, they screwed up with Vista and after making things right with Windows 7 screwed up again (although no where nearly as badly as with Vista) with Windows 8. I also know of people running XP because it's incredibly stable now and they don't see anything in newer versions of Windows they really want or need.
- easytiger 12y ago
  The pace of change in big orgs mean it takes 2-3 years to implement a change like xp->win 7. When you have 100k employees and regulatory hell and have outsourced every last bit of everything you are pretty fucked.
  - dzdt 12y ago
    I work for a big corporation which has not fully made the windows xp to windows 7 transition. We have an extended XP support contract with MS which to my understanding includes bugfixes for this kind of major problem.
  - custardcream 12y ago
    If you think that's bad, try the NHS in the UK. Its the largest organisation in the world with 1.4M employees (!). They've been rolling windows 7 out for 4 years. It'll be obsolete when they've finished.
    - baha_man 12y ago
      ..."the NHS in the UK. Its the largest organisation in the world with 1.4M employees..." It's big, but it's not that big, fifth or sixth largest employer in the world according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers#Largest_public_and_private_employers_in_the_World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers#Large...
      - custardcream 12y ago
        Ok I'm a bit off there. My data was from 2009 :) Plus DoD is several branches so that's a bit of a push.
    - pbhjpbhj 12y ago
      Is there a better way? Maybe they should standardise on a particular UI for specific applications - maybe with desktop icons in specific locations for launching those apps. Then they remove the OS from user view entirely - any OS or version of an OS that will present the particular applications with the required views would then be appropriate. That way when determining if they can upgrade to Windows 10 they just need to ask "will our current apps run, with largely coterminous views and function? Can the OS login direct to our launch icon layout?". Most users use applications rather than OS, especially in a work setting I'd warrant.
- phaer 12y ago
  > I also know of people running XP because it's incredibly stable now and they don't see anything in newer versions of Windows they really want or need. They don't need security updates? Aren't they connected to the internet?
  - Jare 12y ago
    Most people can't "see" security vulnerabilities in their OS.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    I've made that point to this person many times but they're pretty specific about the sites they browse to and regularly run anti-virus scans. Not ideal but they seem fine with it and their system runs pretty nice.
- pjmlp 12y ago
  > You shouldn't be running it but a hell of a lot of people and businesses still are. I am currently creating an application that has "runs on Windows XP" as part of the requirements list.
  - serve_yay 12y ago
    I hope they're compensating you some way or other. One of the last things I did at my previous job involved spelunking around some awful ancient VBScript code, boy am I glad I left that place.
    - pjmlp 12y ago
      It is not that bad, just that I am constrained to .NET 4.0.
omh 12y ago
Windows XP is old, but to call it 13 years old is somewhat misleading. XP was the newest possible version of Windows as recently as 2007, and since most people ignored Vista it was the default install for many (most?) people up until Windows 7, which was only 5 years ago. SP3 came out in 2008 and significantly improved the features and security. Combined with some odd licenses and old PC stock in stores there were plenty of people buying new laptops in 2010 with XP installed. Yes, it's old. But more like 5-6 years than 13.

k-mcgrady 12y ago

You shouldn't be running it but a hell of a lot of people and businesses still are. And MS is to blame IMO. The continued extending support, they screwed up with Vista and after making things right with Windows 7 screwed up again (although no where nearly as badly as with Vista) with Windows 8. I also know of people running XP because it's incredibly stable now and they don't see anything in newer versions of Windows they really want or need.

easytiger 12y ago
The pace of change in big orgs mean it takes 2-3 years to implement a change like xp->win 7. When you have 100k employees and regulatory hell and have outsourced every last bit of everything you are pretty fucked.
- dzdt 12y ago
  I work for a big corporation which has not fully made the windows xp to windows 7 transition. We have an extended XP support contract with MS which to my understanding includes bugfixes for this kind of major problem.
- custardcream 12y ago
  If you think that's bad, try the NHS in the UK. Its the largest organisation in the world with 1.4M employees (!). They've been rolling windows 7 out for 4 years. It'll be obsolete when they've finished.
  - baha_man 12y ago
    ..."the NHS in the UK. Its the largest organisation in the world with 1.4M employees..." It's big, but it's not that big, fifth or sixth largest employer in the world according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers#Largest_public_and_private_employers_in_the_World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers#Large...
    - custardcream 12y ago
      Ok I'm a bit off there. My data was from 2009 :) Plus DoD is several branches so that's a bit of a push.
  - pbhjpbhj 12y ago
    Is there a better way? Maybe they should standardise on a particular UI for specific applications - maybe with desktop icons in specific locations for launching those apps. Then they remove the OS from user view entirely - any OS or version of an OS that will present the particular applications with the required views would then be appropriate. That way when determining if they can upgrade to Windows 10 they just need to ask "will our current apps run, with largely coterminous views and function? Can the OS login direct to our launch icon layout?". Most users use applications rather than OS, especially in a work setting I'd warrant.
phaer 12y ago
> I also know of people running XP because it's incredibly stable now and they don't see anything in newer versions of Windows they really want or need. They don't need security updates? Aren't they connected to the internet?
- Jare 12y ago
  Most people can't "see" security vulnerabilities in their OS.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  I've made that point to this person many times but they're pretty specific about the sites they browse to and regularly run anti-virus scans. Not ideal but they seem fine with it and their system runs pretty nice.
pjmlp 12y ago
> You shouldn't be running it but a hell of a lot of people and businesses still are. I am currently creating an application that has "runs on Windows XP" as part of the requirements list.
- serve_yay 12y ago
  I hope they're compensating you some way or other. One of the last things I did at my previous job involved spelunking around some awful ancient VBScript code, boy am I glad I left that place.
  - pjmlp 12y ago
    It is not that bad, just that I am constrained to .NET 4.0.

omh 12y ago

Windows XP is old, but to call it 13 years old is somewhat misleading. XP was the newest possible version of Windows as recently as 2007, and since most people ignored Vista it was the default install for many (most?) people up until Windows 7, which was only 5 years ago. SP3 came out in 2008 and significantly improved the features and security. Combined with some odd licenses and old PC stock in stores there were plenty of people buying new laptops in 2010 with XP installed. Yes, it's old. But more like 5-6 years than 13.