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Fusion devices aren't rockets and are thus, not subject to the Tyranny of the rocket equation.
by shalmanese 12y ago
Fusion devices aren't rockets and are thus, not subject to the Tyranny of the rocket equation.
- Sharlin 12y agoAnything that pushes stuff out from a small hole in order to accelerate in the opposite direction is a rocket, by definition, and subject to the rocket equation. If a chemical reaction is used to create the energy to push the stuff out, it's a chemical rocket. If a nuclear reactor is used to heat the stuff so it's pushed out, it's a nuclear thermal rocket. If a nuclear reactor or solar panels are used to generate electricity that's used to push the stuff out, it's a nuclear electric or solar electric rocket respectively.
- jordanthoms 12y agoHow about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsi... ?
- dalke 12y agoThe rocket equation applies to all momentum machines which carry its own "fuel", that is, the mass to eject. Orion gets its momentum transfer from the plasma debris of the nuclear explosion, and the plasma speed comes from the explosion itself. Orion carries the source of the plasma, hence it is limited by the rocket equation.
- chii 12y agois there a form of transport that is _not_ limited by the rocket equation?
- shalmanese 12y agoSolar sails, bussard ramjets, space elevators.
- nyrath 12y agoSolar Sail, Laser Sail, Electric Sail, Magnetic Sail, Mini-magnetospheric plasma sail, MagBeam, Plasma Magnet Sail, Photon Drive, Bussard Ramjet, Ram-Augmented Interstellar Rocket. Basically any spacecraft that does not carry its own propellant. Most of these have either pathetic thrust or are way beyond our current state-of-the-art.
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- nyrath 12y agoAgreed, but to be pedantic, it applies to all momentum machines which carry its own "propellant", not "fuel". For instance, in a NERVA rocket, the "fuel" is the uranium rods in the reactor, the "propellant" is the liquid hydrogen that is heated and shot out the exhaust bell.
- Symmetry 12y agoThe rocket equation still applies, but the propellent velocity is so high that you don't a large mass fraction.
- ytturbed 12y agoI was addressing the statement 'Currently, all our human rated rocket engines use chemical reactions', and I agreed with it. But it's not good enough if you consider the lengthy design cycle of propulsion systems. We ought to be creating additional designs which assume that fusion sources of various sizes and masses will be available.