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Fetching.io: Search the full text of every web page you visit
- justcommenting 12y agothis looks awesome--i'm excited for the linux version
- sheltgor 12y agoWish a Windows version was incoming as well. Alas, I'll have to make do with Googling various phrases whenever I want to try and find a webpage I recall seeing and want to find again, but can't remember the name of.
- justcommenting 12y agofor me, a privacy-respecting free and open-source product built to be accessible via tor browser (i.e. usable without the browser plugin) that accepts bitcoin donations could be a great alternative to similar functionality in e.g. the paid version of pinboard. replicating privacy-enhanced workflows from pinboard/evernote and the ilk can be frustrating at times, and trying to host my own bookmarks as a hidden service seems like overkill.
- wudf 12y agothat's pretty cool. we made something similar at an HP IDOL hackathon but it was focused on social
- walterbell 12y agoVery cool. Will it work with mobile Safari which doesn't support browser extension/plugin? Could the index data be added to http://commoncrawl.org http://commoncrawl.org?
- dantiberian 12y agoThis is the kind of product that would really benefit from having a clear business model up front. Free + some promise of charging in the future doesn't encourage me that it will be sustainable in it's current form. Without a clear alternative, the likely conclusion is that user data will be used for advertising some time in the future.
- msandford 12y agoI looked at doing this a couple of years ago but with the a few differences: 1. Only fetched things available publicly 2. Was going to charge $5/mo The rationale behind only fetching public things was to avoid indexing people's banking records or other sensitive information. The $5/mo was because I wasn't looking for venture funding and I wanted to get paid. Ultimately I gave up on the idea once it started to get difficult to implement. Probably my biggest failing; I'm easily distracted. I hope these folks do something to address privacy concerns and make their business sustainable.
- ConSeannery 12y ago"Privacy" link is broken. Is there client side encryption, or can fetching decrypt the data?
- pbnjay 12y agoThere are so many times when I've remembered a random sentence I read and wanted to find the article to quote again later. This is perfect! Like others here, I'm very curious about your business model, especially since this is closed source.
- pbnjay 12y agoum. I guess I retract my "closed source" comment and amend it to "not open source". 234M .app seems pretty heavyweight - do you really need all these node packages in the bundle? If I'm running localhost, why do I need to create an account?
- linguica 12y agoSo this is sort of like the late Google Desktop? For a long time I have been annoyed that with the oodles of space and bandwidth we have nowadays, something as conceptually simple as "a searchable history of everything you look at online" doesn't really exist anymore.
- idibidiart 12y agoThis is the one I made a while ago that does the same thing, maybe a little differently ... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/all-seeing-eye/kiopjipnmfcpdambegpfmggaffjmhnkd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/all-seeing-eye/kio...
- pharshal 12y agoI just tried your extension on chrome. Works pretty neatly. I was wondering where do you store the index for full text search so that I can keep it in my dropbox and give it a 'cloud' like feature, where I can use the same dropbox location from a different device.
- dools 12y agoI made a quick POC for something like this but with twitter: http://www.birdmine.com/ http://www.birdmine.com/ Interestingly I created it initially to deal with the anxiety of not being able to read all the great content available on the net. Then the service broke (kind of) and I realised I didn't care that I couldn't search all the stuff I tweeted. So even though it's kind of broken it still solved my problem :) I have been meaning to fix it up and get it operational.... One of these days....
- flippyhead 12y agoAuthor here. Thanks so much for the interest! It's funny, I've been hacking away at a major update that I plan to release in the next few days... Was assuming I'd stay under the radar until then. The update adds a ton of features and improves the UI quite a bit ;) To respond to some of your ideas feedback: * I do plan to sell the service by some combination of charging to buy the native version and a monthly/yearly fee for the cloud version. * By offering the native version I hope to assuage any privacy or legacy concerns -- all you data is on your machine (encrypted and backed up however you see fit). You'll even have access to a local API to extract or do whatever you want with it. * One idea I've had is to offer a cloud version / native version combo. You would sync to the cloud only your bookmarked sites -- all the other indexed pages you visit would stay on the local version. This way you control what gets put up on the servers but can still have access to your links from all your devices. Thoughts? * I'd also consider open sourcing it (it's built on Meteor and ElasticSearch) but really do need to get paid for my efforts (just had a baby) and am not familiar with all the ins/outs of open source based businesses. I'd love to hear ideas and advice! * This has turned out to be quite a lot more difficult than I'd thought but I'm real happy with how things are coming along. Two words: ElasticSearch Rocks. * Very embarrassed about the privacy policy link. Fixed now. ;)
- clamprecht 12y agoThis looks great, I've wanted this for a long time. One idea: Maybe have an option to "backfill" based on your browser's history? Seems like a good way to give users instant gratification, and solves the problem of "I wish I'd started running this a year ago". In reality, I wish I had it for every page I've visited in the last 14 years. Update: Another idea - maybe you could integrate with pinboard or delicious.com (if anyone still uses it) to backfill-index all links saved to those services. Maybe this could be a premium feature.
- otar 12y agoCongrats! This product is amazing, had something like this in mind for a long and couldn't find a proper implementation. I would be glad to pay reasonable price for such service. Localhost/native version is a killer feature. Don't drop it! If you open source the code I'll be glad to contribute...
- seanp2k2 12y agoThis is super cool and I've been thinking about building something like this for a long time. One thing to also consider: timing data. In my thinking about it, I thought that it would be massively useful to record both the exact time and order pages were visited in, and the other tabs open at that time. Lastly, check out AlchemyAPI to auto-suggest some tags / keywords based on page content to make recall easier. Basically this + all of the above + a browsable timeline interface was my idea. Please take it and build it if you have the time / motivation, and I'll subscribe to your service (or help hack on it if you open-source it). The best competitor I've found so far is Pocket with the premium features (I'm a subscriber). Good luck, and great work. I also love meteor and ES :)
- baddox 12y agoThough it's not particularly practical, storing an event for every tab and window open, close, and URL change could lead to some very cool analytics after a long period of usage. I'd love to see visualizations of the number of tabs I have open over time, number of tabs per domain, etc.
- srean 12y agoIt has not come up on the comments yet so thought I should mention historious http://historio.us/ http://historio.us/ Its by an HN old timer https://hn.algolia.com/?q=historious#!/story/forever/0/historious https://hn.algolia.com/?q=historious#!/story/forever/0/histo... BTW I am not affiliated in any form.
- StavrosK 12y agoHey, that's mine! Thanks for the mention!
- natch 12y agoNice. I've been told (by slingbox folks some time ago) that EFF argues that automatic updates are never (edit: generally not) a good idea. They can be used to add or remove functionality by court order. Another scenario where automatic updates of a native app hurt users is when your company is purchased by a larger company who then shuts down the product. Please reconsider that feature for the localhost version. BTW I'm just going by the green checkbox in the features comparison table to conclude that you have this ill-advised feature. Sorry for latching on to that one thing, but it's important imho. Other than that, this is something I've wished for many times, so great to see it becoming real. I loved clamprecht's suggestion of backfill from history -- that would be great!
- userbinator 12y agoIt seems like this functionality could be pretty easy to achieve (minus the "cloud" part) with any existing browser that caches to the local filesystem - just set the cache limits to "unlimited" so it'll continue accumulating pages, and let your OS's search function take care of the rest. If you want to be fancy and keep only the text, add a script that periodically runs to clear out images, CSS, JS, and other cached files you don't need. One of the biggest problems I can see is with the increasing popularity of web apps that load as a single page and use JS to load/parse/display the data; only the browser can get the actual content in that case.
- tekacs 12y agoI (as have many others) considered building something like this in the past. What you say was exactly what put me off. The difference in CPU time between downloading a page and rendering it (even virtually as with say PhantomJS) was sufficiently large that running in the browser (not centrally) seemed to be the only general purpose way and maintaining _browser_ extensions is... a pretty major job. I was looking into writing a daemon to externally monitor the browser and it's cache (such as Chrome's Current Session file) when I left off. Hopefully the use of server-side prerendering will catch on, be it through Node or other systems...
- kalleboo 12y agoSafari on OS X already does this - you can do a Spotlight search for text on any page in your browser history or in your bookmarks and it'll show up
- logn 12y agoA browser addon could work. I've toyed around in firefox. You can access the rendered dom in addons and do whatever you want with it, including logging it to file. Here's an example of writing to file: https://github.com/prekageo/http-request-logger/blob/master/components/httpRequestLogger.js https://github.com/prekageo/http-request-logger/blob/master/... And you can observe all the requests/responses and wait for an http 200 for the entire page (excluding intermediate 200's for things such as images). Example: https://github.com/MachinePublishers/ScreenSlicer/blob/master/core/firefox-addon/lib/main.js https://github.com/MachinePublishers/ScreenSlicer/blob/maste... The best approach for this would probably be to tie into a page unload event or some hybrid approach. Getting started: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK
- serf 12y agoI wish I could host my own cloud, but I understand the model. I just wish it wasn't so :(.
- justcommenting 12y agoit's getting easier every day; check out the free and open-source owncloud
- mrmondo 12y agoGreat idea, so please you added a host-it-yourself / non-cloud option! Can't wait for firefox support, then I can start using it.
- juretriglav 12y agoGood stuff, there's definitely a value in "local search", where local stands for "your own stuff". Pinboard can be used in a similar way (the paid version), but the difference is that's FTS only for pinned things. Shameless plug, I'm attempting to do something similar specifically for science, but make those local results also available globally using a distributed network based on WebRTC. It's also a browser extension, which detects if you're on a page of a scientific article. If you are, it takes the body of the article and indexes it, by putting its contents into a DHT. You can then use the extension to search through this distributed network. For those interested, the post back from June is available here: http://juretriglav.si/an-open-distributed-search-engine-for-science/ http://juretriglav.si/an-open-distributed-search-engine-for-... with the source code here: https://github.com/ScholarNinja/extension https://github.com/ScholarNinja/extension The project will get a lot more love soon, as it turned out it was a bit too early back then because WebRTC implementations were buggy (since fixed in Chrome, but e.g. it resulted in 100% CPU usage in Chrome after a short while, gigabytes of memory used). Anyway, best of luck making Fetching.io sustainable, flippyhead!
- simi_ 12y agoWhat a delightful and extremely useful piece of software! I had a plan to build a smart bookmarking service (like pinboard on steroids), but I think this is what I was actually thinking of. Great work! PS: If you ever decide to open source it I'd be happy to contribute.
- capisce 12y agoTried to create a new account via Twitter and got a "Internal server error [500]". The concept sounds useful though.
- oneeyedpigeon 12y agoI also got an internal server error when creating a full (non-twitter, non-facebook) account, but it had actually registered me, and I could login with my details.
- shirman 12y agoIs it possible to run it on private VPS?
- baby 12y agoWhy limit it to web pages? You could be the Google of local search.
- avinashv 12y agoVery interesting. I can't get the extension to work on Safari, though it works fine on Chrome. On Safari it logs in, but the search doesn't work (typing "f <something>" just goes to Google to search for "f <something>" every time, and when I restart the browser, I'm logged out.) Twitter authentication is also busted (returns a 500 error). When it works, it's fast, clean, and really well integrated into the workflow of my browsing, since I use the address bar to control basically everything. If you can figure out the Safari issue, I'd happily pay a few bucks a month for the cloud version. Quick edit: turns out the Safari extension is definitely indexing the browsing, just the keyword search shows issues. Restarting the browser also kills the authentication every time. Latest Safari on OS X 10.10, if it helps.
- p4bl0 12y agoSo this would save every page I visit, including when I'm logged in to private services (email, bank, etc), to somewhere in the cloud I can't control? Is there any client-side encryption done? If so, where is the publicly auditable code? And how does the search work? It fetches everything and decrypt it for each single query? The idea is very good, but this should not be done in the cloud, it has to be done locally, and potentially securely synchronized among different machines. EDIT: Okay it's not mentioned on the landing page, but there is an option to use it locally. Cool! EDIT2: hey downvoters, when I read "Your cloud data is visible only to you. You can optionally install fetching as an application on your computer." I assumed that the app was a client for the cloud service that was distinct from the web interface usable in a browser. This is a totally legit interpretation, especially when the next title is "It's accessible from anywhere". I don't see why it is wrong in that case to raise the privacy concerns that I mentioned. I cared enough to continue investigating and found on an other page that the product can actually be used locally. I then edited my comment (maybe 4 or 5 minutes later) in accordance with that new knowledge. Knowing that the concern I raised are still valid for users who would chose to use it with the cloud, what does your downvotes mean?
- mitchtbaum 12y agoPolipo can already store full text of every visited web page efficiently. For searches, we'd need a way to grep its compressed cache. Web UI optional. (Cache versioning would be a nice, separate feature.)
- undef1ned 12y agoReminds me https://www.archify.com/ https://www.archify.com/