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The Dangers of Eating Late at Night

106 points by ezhil 12y ago

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steven2012 12y ago
Does this include Europeans? My experience is that most western Europeans are their meals quite late, do they have the same problems that this article purports?
- jzig 12y ago
  "Europeans have fewer cases of reflux than we do, even though many of them eat late. That’s most likely from portion control. In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops."
  - gonzo 12y ago
    Europeans also tend to stay upright for a longer period during the meal. Americans gorge and lie down.
- aroch 12y ago
  Since you apparently didn't bother to read the article... Europeans have fewer cases of reflux than we do, even though many of them eat late. That’s most likely from portion control. In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops.
- lukasm 12y ago
  I've been thinking about difference between Poland and UK. When I lived in Poland my day look quite different. 8:00 breakfast 11:30 2nd breakfast 15:00 Dinner (soup + main) 20:00 Supper (something light like sandwiches or boiled sausages). I think this and more process food are the reasons why there are 2x more obese people in UK.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    How did you fit that around work? I could do the 2nd breakfast if it was something I could eat at my desk (fruit for example) but the 15:00 dinner would probably last too long to fit in on my lunch hour (and it's quite late for lunch too when most employees break at 12:00 or 13:00).
    - lukasm 12y ago
      That was in school. Can't do really at work, unless you start at 7:00.
      - _random_ 12y ago
        Well, I was sleeping midday in the kindergarten. I really wish I could still do this at work.
tarekmoz 12y ago
here: "...two bottles of good red wine for the table [...] her reflux was serious..." Too much food and drink is bad for you. that's all.
- aberrant 12y ago
  On top of this, certain foods may be worse than others. Through experience I've found out that the following foods seem to increase symptoms related to acid reflux: dairy products, red meat, citric products, chocolate, alcohol, soda drinks and coffee.
  - leviathan 12y ago
    In other words, anything that tastes good.
    - stinos 12y ago
      that's just way to general and way too much depending on the objective thing called taste. Next to chocolate/coffee/... I also really like the taste of vegetables like carrots, broccoli, fennel, pumpkins, ... I really doubt they would fall under the category of stuff which is likely to increase reflux.
      - maxerickson 12y ago
        The only food I've found gives me heartburn is black olives. Conveniently, I don't really like them.
    - aberrant 12y ago
      By the way, I forgot tomato from my ban list :)
ripb 12y ago
So the conclusion that can be drawn from the article is that if you can't control your portions, eat early. If you can control your portions, as she says Europeans do, then it's fine to eat late. So then the issue really at hand isn't eating time, it's portion size.
- jzig 12y ago
  I disagree. The issue at hand is both, and they are handled in different ways by different people.
- switch007 12y ago
  > If you can control your portions, as she says Europeans do, Spanish portions can be huge. A paella "starter" could feed 2 people for a main course. UK portions sizes are growing, too. My Slovenian friend says they have huge portions in Slovenia, where quantity is valued over quality. It's very hard to generalise about Europe and its ~600 million inhabitants.
mitul_45 12y ago
Well there is a ritual in Jainism which says not to eat after sunset (remember: this was written/said generations before all science and research came into existence). Being Jain, I am just amazed by how precise our religion/literature is. Like many other ritual, this one is also backed by science now. FYI: It's called "Chauvihar" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Jainism)
- sumedh 12y ago
  > I am just amazed by how precise our religion/literature is. Or just a coincidence/accident.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    Or something they figured out through experimentation and wrote down so future generations could benefit.
  - privong 12y ago
    Possibly coupled with an observational confirmation bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
    - mitul_45 12y ago
      maybe.
- infinitone 12y ago
  Never heard of Jainism... interesting. But you're right, in that many religions do have a ideas that are good for you.
  - MichaelGG 12y ago
    Markov chains can also generate good ideas.
smtddr 12y ago
To add perhaps some more support to this, see how Sumo wrestlers of Japan gain weight: http://www.diet-blog.com/05/sumo_wrestlers_this_is_how_you_get_fat.php http://www.diet-blog.com/05/sumo_wrestlers_this_is_how_you_g... Particularly 3 and 4: Take a nap after eating. Eat late in the day. Probably #1 too about skipping breakfast.
- infinitone 12y ago
  Wait... what constitutes exercise on an empty stomach? because I workout early in the morning. So I just have a apple+banana+milk shake for preworkout. And then after workout I'd have my breakfast.
  - orky56 12y ago
    Actually, completing eliminating your meal pre-workout may provide better results in terms of fat loss. However you may feel tired but having some caffeine and/or protein with limited calories may alleviate that. It's called "fasted training" and you can read more here - [http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2013/sep/19/fasted-training-eat-before-exercise http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/201...] If you want to go completely extreme, intermittent fasting only allows you to eat within a limited window (e.g. 6-8 hours). Lots more research has been done on that but the pressures of conforming to traditional meal timings especially via social occasions can be difficult.
- raverbashing 12y ago
  Some intermittent fasting regimes also advocate sleeping after eating
- joelrunyon 12y ago
  > Probably #1 too about skipping breakfast. Actually - skipping breakfast helps you keep your insulin low and promotes lean body mass. Your body is in prime fat burning mode in the morning and holding off on breakfast (and spiking the blood sugar / insulin levels) can help you keep burning fat through mid-morning.
kreek 12y ago
For me it wasn't when or how much but what. At it's worst I was taking prescription medicine ate what I thought was healthy food (whole grain bread, oat cereal) and still had heartburn every night. I am not celiac but eliminating beer, whole grain wheat, and oats got rid of my acid reflux. Wheat, especially the modern variety, is not well tolerated by humans http://news.discovery.com/human/why-you-should-probably-stop-eating-wheat-121214.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/why-you-should-probably-stop.... If you can't give up bread eat Sourdough http://cookusinterruptus.com/blog/?p=4245 http://cookusinterruptus.com/blog/?p=4245
- sneak 12y ago
  I found that chlorinated water or high-fructose corn syrup triggered mine. That took a long time to isolate.
  - themartorana 12y ago
    This. I live in a major city and our water is majorly chlorinated. I read a bit about this online and thought, sure, what the heck, I'll try eliminating chlorinated water and see what happens. Now I have an under-counter water filter and all our drinking water has a significant amount of the chlorine filtered out. It made a huge difference for me. YMMV, and of course doesn't mean much for well water.
    - themartorana 12y ago
      In what world does this comment get down-voted? This is the basis for an elimination diet, which is key to discovering food sensitivities. Seriously...
zamio 12y ago
"In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops." This was the first thing that struck me when I first moved here. Portions for all kinds of food from ice-cream, to coffee are huge. Why are huge portions such a common thing here?
- sprucely 12y ago
  It's probably a number of factors. A couple of possibilities I can think of are Americans' sense of value (get as much as you can for your money,) and a general addiction to the sensation of a full stomach.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    I think it also has to do with the common attitude in the US that 'bigger is better' and I guess that probably goes hand in hand with value.
- rogerbinns 12y ago
  It is the simplest way to increase revenues. If for example a food item is sold for $5, and you would like more revenue then increase the portion size (costing say 20c in ingredients) and charge $6. Labour and space costs are pretty much fixed so this is the resolution to getting more per customer. There are also some other cultural differences. Eating out is far more common amongst similar peer groups (comparing US and UK). Additionally Americans seem less able/willing to cook, despite the amusing amount of "food porn" TV channels and shows. That also ties in with the doggie bag - the idea being that the meal served is for more than one meal, taking the difference home for eating at another time thereby avoiding having to cook later.
  - nodata 12y ago
    But his question was "why in America?", why not anywhere else?
    - 12y ago
iagooar 12y ago
I suffer acid reflux a lot of times. One trick I read some years ago proved to be magical: eat a teaspoon of dry, milled coffee. It works instantly and lasts for at least 2-3 hours. It can be tough to swallow the coffee at the beginning, but once you get used to it, it isn't that difficult.
- marktangotango 12y ago
  Why is this effective for acid reflux? Curious as i have it too...
  - iagooar 12y ago
    I'd like to know, too.
    - contingencies 12y ago
      Hypothesis... dry means it reduces liquid levels in the gut. Also, diuretic? You could test the first part of this hypothesis by using other highly absorbent foodstuffs and seeing if the same result can be gained.
- pyre 12y ago
  Does this cure the reflux symptoms or are you using it as a hunger-suppressant?
  - iagooar 12y ago
    It cures the symptoms. Why it works, I have no idea.
- gypsyharlot 12y ago
  I found a cure that works perfectly for me. My doctor prescribed a truckload of antiacids and proton-pump inhibitors for me, until they stopped working. Then, as a new year's resolution, I decided to stop eating potato chips... after avoiding them for about 3 weeks, the acid reflux completely went away. Whether it was because of all the salt, or the oil, I don't know, but it solved it for me. Give it a try!
ilaksh 12y ago
The idea that serious health problems can be cured with lifestyle changes is compelling, but unfortunately often wrong. This is a big problem in medicine in my opinion, because doctors often come into a relationship with a patient with the assumption that the patient's own behaviors are the root of the medical condition. This is essentially blaming the victim, and often absolutely incorrect. My personal anecdotes relating to this are as follows. I have had serious acid reflux for years. It is generally the "silent" type and one of the main symptoms I have is asthma, especially night-time or sleeping-time asthma, triggered by the reflux. I have tried various diets, including abstaining from caffeine, anything that could possibly contain wheat or trigger a wheat sensitivity, Atkins, fasting. None of those changes make my acid reflux or other related symptoms go away. I have also done experiments with strictly reducing my intake of food and drinks after certain times of day. This was also ineffective. What does seem to help, to some limited degree, is taking large doses of acid reducer pills, and staying as upright as possible while sleeping. Also, when I had a TIF surgery to repair my minor hernia and supposedly eliminate the reflux, it was significantly reduced, but never went away completely. And unfortunately after a few months I must have done something to undo much of that surgery because it is probably almost back as much as it was before. And I know my sliding hiatal hernia is back.
- specialist 12y ago
  I'm sorry you're in pain. Bro hug. While I agree, I'd still consider contributing lifestyle factors after addressing structural, physiological, and so forth. Though my diseases cannot be cured by better nutrition, its certainly helped. To my surprise and delight.
kolev 12y ago
Ori Hofmekler for years has been promoting his evidence-based Warrior Diet [1], which claims that humans have always been nocturnal eaters and that only the slaves were eating during the day and warriors were feasting at night. I reduced my meals to two a day (within 6 hours), mostly at night, and have since lost a few pounds although I've increased my caloric intake from fats. I slowly want to shift to a single meal at night with the help of healthy fats during the day (ghee and coconut oil). Ori says that some protein and carbs (berries) during the day are fine. [1] http://www.warriordiet.com/ http://www.warriordiet.com/
- kolev 12y ago
  Carbheads on a downvote crusade again...
  - KMag 12y ago
    I didn't downvote you, but I think your downvotes are probably from people who read your summary as a diet based on a flawed appeal to nature. I'm not sure if a carbhead advocates a high carb or low carb diet, but I imagine most of the downvoters would probably also downvote a post advocating a high-carb or low-cab diet that appeared to use poor logic as a starting point.
    - kolev 12y ago
      By "carbhead" I mean a person caught in the vicious circle of high-carb addiction. But I meant refined carbs, not all carbs are evil. Think pothead. And this is why carbhead is similar to pothead: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120904095856.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120904095856.ht...
  - rowill 12y ago
    The diet sounds like absurd marketing, there isn't some "carbhead" (whatever that is) crusade stalking you with downvotes.
    - 12y ago
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nakedrobot2 12y ago
Sorry but like basically every other scientist's guess about nutrition, this latest guess is anecdotal, with huge assumptions built in, a lack of control subjects, making it, like all fad pop-diet articles spouting the newest half-baked discovery about nutrition, vague bullshit at best. Also it comes with the huge caveat that it's only true for those in the USA with their poor impulse control and huge portions. It would be good to apply "Nakedrobot2's law of nutrition articles" which states that they are ALL A BUNCH OF LIES :-)

106 points by ezhil 12y ago

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steven2012 12y ago

Does this include Europeans? My experience is that most western Europeans are their meals quite late, do they have the same problems that this article purports?

jzig 12y ago
"Europeans have fewer cases of reflux than we do, even though many of them eat late. That’s most likely from portion control. In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops."
- gonzo 12y ago
  Europeans also tend to stay upright for a longer period during the meal. Americans gorge and lie down.
aroch 12y ago
Since you apparently didn't bother to read the article... Europeans have fewer cases of reflux than we do, even though many of them eat late. That’s most likely from portion control. In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops.
lukasm 12y ago
I've been thinking about difference between Poland and UK. When I lived in Poland my day look quite different. 8:00 breakfast 11:30 2nd breakfast 15:00 Dinner (soup + main) 20:00 Supper (something light like sandwiches or boiled sausages). I think this and more process food are the reasons why there are 2x more obese people in UK.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  How did you fit that around work? I could do the 2nd breakfast if it was something I could eat at my desk (fruit for example) but the 15:00 dinner would probably last too long to fit in on my lunch hour (and it's quite late for lunch too when most employees break at 12:00 or 13:00).
  - lukasm 12y ago
    That was in school. Can't do really at work, unless you start at 7:00.
    - _random_ 12y ago
      Well, I was sleeping midday in the kindergarten. I really wish I could still do this at work.

tarekmoz 12y ago

here: "...two bottles of good red wine for the table [...] her reflux was serious..." Too much food and drink is bad for you. that's all.

aberrant 12y ago
On top of this, certain foods may be worse than others. Through experience I've found out that the following foods seem to increase symptoms related to acid reflux: dairy products, red meat, citric products, chocolate, alcohol, soda drinks and coffee.
- leviathan 12y ago
  In other words, anything that tastes good.
  - stinos 12y ago
    that's just way to general and way too much depending on the objective thing called taste. Next to chocolate/coffee/... I also really like the taste of vegetables like carrots, broccoli, fennel, pumpkins, ... I really doubt they would fall under the category of stuff which is likely to increase reflux.
    - maxerickson 12y ago
      The only food I've found gives me heartburn is black olives. Conveniently, I don't really like them.
  - aberrant 12y ago
    By the way, I forgot tomato from my ban list :)

ripb 12y ago

So the conclusion that can be drawn from the article is that if you can't control your portions, eat early. If you can control your portions, as she says Europeans do, then it's fine to eat late. So then the issue really at hand isn't eating time, it's portion size.

jzig 12y ago
I disagree. The issue at hand is both, and they are handled in different ways by different people.
switch007 12y ago
> If you can control your portions, as she says Europeans do, Spanish portions can be huge. A paella "starter" could feed 2 people for a main course. UK portions sizes are growing, too. My Slovenian friend says they have huge portions in Slovenia, where quantity is valued over quality. It's very hard to generalise about Europe and its ~600 million inhabitants.

mitul_45 12y ago

Well there is a ritual in Jainism which says not to eat after sunset (remember: this was written/said generations before all science and research came into existence). Being Jain, I am just amazed by how precise our religion/literature is. Like many other ritual, this one is also backed by science now. FYI: It's called "Chauvihar" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Jainism)

sumedh 12y ago
> I am just amazed by how precise our religion/literature is. Or just a coincidence/accident.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  Or something they figured out through experimentation and wrote down so future generations could benefit.
- privong 12y ago
  Possibly coupled with an observational confirmation bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
  - mitul_45 12y ago
    maybe.
infinitone 12y ago
Never heard of Jainism... interesting. But you're right, in that many religions do have a ideas that are good for you.
- MichaelGG 12y ago
  Markov chains can also generate good ideas.

smtddr 12y ago

To add perhaps some more support to this, see how Sumo wrestlers of Japan gain weight: http://www.diet-blog.com/05/sumo_wrestlers_this_is_how_you_get_fat.php http://www.diet-blog.com/05/sumo_wrestlers_this_is_how_you_g... Particularly 3 and 4: Take a nap after eating. Eat late in the day. Probably #1 too about skipping breakfast.

infinitone 12y ago
Wait... what constitutes exercise on an empty stomach? because I workout early in the morning. So I just have a apple+banana+milk shake for preworkout. And then after workout I'd have my breakfast.
- orky56 12y ago
  Actually, completing eliminating your meal pre-workout may provide better results in terms of fat loss. However you may feel tired but having some caffeine and/or protein with limited calories may alleviate that. It's called "fasted training" and you can read more here - [http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2013/sep/19/fasted-training-eat-before-exercise http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/201...] If you want to go completely extreme, intermittent fasting only allows you to eat within a limited window (e.g. 6-8 hours). Lots more research has been done on that but the pressures of conforming to traditional meal timings especially via social occasions can be difficult.
raverbashing 12y ago
Some intermittent fasting regimes also advocate sleeping after eating
joelrunyon 12y ago
> Probably #1 too about skipping breakfast. Actually - skipping breakfast helps you keep your insulin low and promotes lean body mass. Your body is in prime fat burning mode in the morning and holding off on breakfast (and spiking the blood sugar / insulin levels) can help you keep burning fat through mid-morning.

kreek 12y ago

For me it wasn't when or how much but what. At it's worst I was taking prescription medicine ate what I thought was healthy food (whole grain bread, oat cereal) and still had heartburn every night. I am not celiac but eliminating beer, whole grain wheat, and oats got rid of my acid reflux. Wheat, especially the modern variety, is not well tolerated by humans http://news.discovery.com/human/why-you-should-probably-stop-eating-wheat-121214.htm http://news.discovery.com/human/why-you-should-probably-stop.... If you can't give up bread eat Sourdough http://cookusinterruptus.com/blog/?p=4245 http://cookusinterruptus.com/blog/?p=4245

sneak 12y ago
I found that chlorinated water or high-fructose corn syrup triggered mine. That took a long time to isolate.
- themartorana 12y ago
  This. I live in a major city and our water is majorly chlorinated. I read a bit about this online and thought, sure, what the heck, I'll try eliminating chlorinated water and see what happens. Now I have an under-counter water filter and all our drinking water has a significant amount of the chlorine filtered out. It made a huge difference for me. YMMV, and of course doesn't mean much for well water.
  - themartorana 12y ago
    In what world does this comment get down-voted? This is the basis for an elimination diet, which is key to discovering food sensitivities. Seriously...

zamio 12y ago

"In France, for example, a serving of ice cream is typically a single modest scoop, while in America, it’s often three gargantuan scoops." This was the first thing that struck me when I first moved here. Portions for all kinds of food from ice-cream, to coffee are huge. Why are huge portions such a common thing here?

sprucely 12y ago
It's probably a number of factors. A couple of possibilities I can think of are Americans' sense of value (get as much as you can for your money,) and a general addiction to the sensation of a full stomach.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  I think it also has to do with the common attitude in the US that 'bigger is better' and I guess that probably goes hand in hand with value.
rogerbinns 12y ago
It is the simplest way to increase revenues. If for example a food item is sold for $5, and you would like more revenue then increase the portion size (costing say 20c in ingredients) and charge $6. Labour and space costs are pretty much fixed so this is the resolution to getting more per customer. There are also some other cultural differences. Eating out is far more common amongst similar peer groups (comparing US and UK). Additionally Americans seem less able/willing to cook, despite the amusing amount of "food porn" TV channels and shows. That also ties in with the doggie bag - the idea being that the meal served is for more than one meal, taking the difference home for eating at another time thereby avoiding having to cook later.
- nodata 12y ago
  But his question was "why in America?", why not anywhere else?
  - 12y ago

iagooar 12y ago

I suffer acid reflux a lot of times. One trick I read some years ago proved to be magical: eat a teaspoon of dry, milled coffee. It works instantly and lasts for at least 2-3 hours. It can be tough to swallow the coffee at the beginning, but once you get used to it, it isn't that difficult.

marktangotango 12y ago
Why is this effective for acid reflux? Curious as i have it too...
- iagooar 12y ago
  I'd like to know, too.
  - contingencies 12y ago
    Hypothesis... dry means it reduces liquid levels in the gut. Also, diuretic? You could test the first part of this hypothesis by using other highly absorbent foodstuffs and seeing if the same result can be gained.
pyre 12y ago
Does this cure the reflux symptoms or are you using it as a hunger-suppressant?
- iagooar 12y ago
  It cures the symptoms. Why it works, I have no idea.
gypsyharlot 12y ago
I found a cure that works perfectly for me. My doctor prescribed a truckload of antiacids and proton-pump inhibitors for me, until they stopped working. Then, as a new year's resolution, I decided to stop eating potato chips... after avoiding them for about 3 weeks, the acid reflux completely went away. Whether it was because of all the salt, or the oil, I don't know, but it solved it for me. Give it a try!

ilaksh 12y ago

The idea that serious health problems can be cured with lifestyle changes is compelling, but unfortunately often wrong. This is a big problem in medicine in my opinion, because doctors often come into a relationship with a patient with the assumption that the patient's own behaviors are the root of the medical condition. This is essentially blaming the victim, and often absolutely incorrect. My personal anecdotes relating to this are as follows. I have had serious acid reflux for years. It is generally the "silent" type and one of the main symptoms I have is asthma, especially night-time or sleeping-time asthma, triggered by the reflux. I have tried various diets, including abstaining from caffeine, anything that could possibly contain wheat or trigger a wheat sensitivity, Atkins, fasting. None of those changes make my acid reflux or other related symptoms go away. I have also done experiments with strictly reducing my intake of food and drinks after certain times of day. This was also ineffective. What does seem to help, to some limited degree, is taking large doses of acid reducer pills, and staying as upright as possible while sleeping. Also, when I had a TIF surgery to repair my minor hernia and supposedly eliminate the reflux, it was significantly reduced, but never went away completely. And unfortunately after a few months I must have done something to undo much of that surgery because it is probably almost back as much as it was before. And I know my sliding hiatal hernia is back.

specialist 12y ago
I'm sorry you're in pain. Bro hug. While I agree, I'd still consider contributing lifestyle factors after addressing structural, physiological, and so forth. Though my diseases cannot be cured by better nutrition, its certainly helped. To my surprise and delight.

kolev 12y ago

Ori Hofmekler for years has been promoting his evidence-based Warrior Diet [1], which claims that humans have always been nocturnal eaters and that only the slaves were eating during the day and warriors were feasting at night. I reduced my meals to two a day (within 6 hours), mostly at night, and have since lost a few pounds although I've increased my caloric intake from fats. I slowly want to shift to a single meal at night with the help of healthy fats during the day (ghee and coconut oil). Ori says that some protein and carbs (berries) during the day are fine. [1] http://www.warriordiet.com/ http://www.warriordiet.com/

kolev 12y ago
Carbheads on a downvote crusade again...
- KMag 12y ago
  I didn't downvote you, but I think your downvotes are probably from people who read your summary as a diet based on a flawed appeal to nature. I'm not sure if a carbhead advocates a high carb or low carb diet, but I imagine most of the downvoters would probably also downvote a post advocating a high-carb or low-cab diet that appeared to use poor logic as a starting point.
  - kolev 12y ago
    By "carbhead" I mean a person caught in the vicious circle of high-carb addiction. But I meant refined carbs, not all carbs are evil. Think pothead. And this is why carbhead is similar to pothead: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120904095856.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120904095856.ht...
- rowill 12y ago
  The diet sounds like absurd marketing, there isn't some "carbhead" (whatever that is) crusade stalking you with downvotes.
  - 12y ago

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nakedrobot2 12y ago

Sorry but like basically every other scientist's guess about nutrition, this latest guess is anecdotal, with huge assumptions built in, a lack of control subjects, making it, like all fad pop-diet articles spouting the newest half-baked discovery about nutrition, vague bullshit at best. Also it comes with the huge caveat that it's only true for those in the USA with their poor impulse control and huge portions. It would be good to apply "Nakedrobot2's law of nutrition articles" which states that they are ALL A BUNCH OF LIES :-)