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That is not true though. You can easily reduce the amount of food you eat by changing what you eat. Try to eat a diet high in fat and low in carbs. You'll find

by mirsadm 12y ago

That is not true though. You can easily reduce the amount of food you eat by changing what you eat. Try to eat a diet high in fat and low in carbs. You'll find it extremely difficult to over eat. Then try the opposite, high carb and low fat. In my experience it is easy to keep eating until you feel sick.

bluecalm 12y ago
What's up with HN downvoting any comment containing mention of low-carb diets ? They work for tons of people. It's interesting argument as to why they work (do people just eat less, if so why or is there some other mechanism ?) but denying that for many people cutting out curb solves willingness to eat too much problem is just ridiculous. It's also experience of many people that keeping calories in range on standard/high carb diet is constant struggle while it's easy on low carb. How is it possible that comments containing this information + something from personal experience are constantly downvoted on this site?
- BSousa 12y ago
  It is not the low-carb by itself, is the whole magic around low-carb that people defend without much scientific basis. That and when talking about low-carb, they are actually comparing highly processed crap carbs vs healthy semi lean meats/fats.
BSousa 12y ago
I wish people stopped saying this. I do well on a low carb diet, but seriously, I'll eat a pound of bacon (900 kcal) in one sitting if I don't stop myself. I can eat a pound of entrecot easily as well (960 kcal) and still stuff myself after (heck, I used to east 1/2 pount of entrecot + 2 pounds of spinach in a meal and still be hungry, and i'm 150 pounds 5'6) I won't even start with the very high-fat foods (butters, cheeses, etc). Low carb-high fat is not a magic pill to eat less. And if you want to do an experient, eat 1000 calories of vegetables (most are carb heavy) and in another day 1000 calories of bacon and let me know which is easier. Better advice: just stop eating highly processed food and you will fell fuller for longer. If you can't eat it raw or with just one transformation (cooking for example) don't. Flour for example has separation of the germ, milling, reconstitution (water) and cooking so yes, even wholewheat bread is highly processed.
- induscreep 12y ago
  Have you tried high protein-low carb instead of high fat-low carb?
  - BSousa 12y ago
    I think I've tried most combinations to be honest ;) I change my diet depending on my goals. For example, I will start upping the carbs (probably to 40% or so) soon due to change in exercise schedule and the carb requirements for explosive exercise. Currently, its around 40-50% protein, 25-30% fat and remaining carbs (fruit and vegetables mostly). I weight and log all my food intake (well, 95% or so, the rest I eyeball it when I go out to eat with my family, but even then I try to keep it simple, grilled steak with veggies, no sauces or oils. That way at least I have an idea on the macros/calories). I prefer to work in ranges to have a bit more freedom than a set number. For example, its 9pm after dinner and I have 82kcal remaining for the day, and since my protein and fat goals for the day were achieved, I'll be eating 12 green olives (weighted) with a bit of garlic as a snack that will get me 5kcal over my daily limit. It maybe overkill for some, but it works for me. I used to box and had to make weight, knowing and controlling (weighting) the food worked for me, so whenever I want to change my body composition or my work and workout changes, it is my go-to tool and it works. I'm sure it will work for most other people short of some medical issues, but many people don't stick to it or fool themselves by 'forgetting' to log that cookie at work or those 2 spoons of sugar in each of the 4 cups of coffee they have per day. Now, appetite control is something different, and regarding that, I know many folks have problems with, both physical/hormonal and mental to which I don't want to say anything as I don't want to impose my views on other folks and don't know what they have/are going through. I actually try to stay away from nutrition discussions here in HN since there is so much crap flying based on the hip bloggers of the time that I gave up. (fad now for hacker-like mentality seems to be the Paleo and Keto diets being the holy grail of dieting. While both have good, and bad things about it, and I'm sure they have worked for various people, it is almost like discussing which religion is right)
jschwartzi 12y ago
You can get a similar effect just by switching from eating a lot of grains to eating a lot of vegetables.

by mirsadm 12y ago

bluecalm 12y ago

What's up with HN downvoting any comment containing mention of low-carb diets ? They work for tons of people. It's interesting argument as to why they work (do people just eat less, if so why or is there some other mechanism ?) but denying that for many people cutting out curb solves willingness to eat too much problem is just ridiculous. It's also experience of many people that keeping calories in range on standard/high carb diet is constant struggle while it's easy on low carb. How is it possible that comments containing this information + something from personal experience are constantly downvoted on this site?

BSousa 12y ago
It is not the low-carb by itself, is the whole magic around low-carb that people defend without much scientific basis. That and when talking about low-carb, they are actually comparing highly processed crap carbs vs healthy semi lean meats/fats.

BSousa 12y ago

I wish people stopped saying this. I do well on a low carb diet, but seriously, I'll eat a pound of bacon (900 kcal) in one sitting if I don't stop myself. I can eat a pound of entrecot easily as well (960 kcal) and still stuff myself after (heck, I used to east 1/2 pount of entrecot + 2 pounds of spinach in a meal and still be hungry, and i'm 150 pounds 5'6) I won't even start with the very high-fat foods (butters, cheeses, etc). Low carb-high fat is not a magic pill to eat less. And if you want to do an experient, eat 1000 calories of vegetables (most are carb heavy) and in another day 1000 calories of bacon and let me know which is easier. Better advice: just stop eating highly processed food and you will fell fuller for longer. If you can't eat it raw or with just one transformation (cooking for example) don't. Flour for example has separation of the germ, milling, reconstitution (water) and cooking so yes, even wholewheat bread is highly processed.

induscreep 12y ago
Have you tried high protein-low carb instead of high fat-low carb?
- BSousa 12y ago
  I think I've tried most combinations to be honest ;) I change my diet depending on my goals. For example, I will start upping the carbs (probably to 40% or so) soon due to change in exercise schedule and the carb requirements for explosive exercise. Currently, its around 40-50% protein, 25-30% fat and remaining carbs (fruit and vegetables mostly). I weight and log all my food intake (well, 95% or so, the rest I eyeball it when I go out to eat with my family, but even then I try to keep it simple, grilled steak with veggies, no sauces or oils. That way at least I have an idea on the macros/calories). I prefer to work in ranges to have a bit more freedom than a set number. For example, its 9pm after dinner and I have 82kcal remaining for the day, and since my protein and fat goals for the day were achieved, I'll be eating 12 green olives (weighted) with a bit of garlic as a snack that will get me 5kcal over my daily limit. It maybe overkill for some, but it works for me. I used to box and had to make weight, knowing and controlling (weighting) the food worked for me, so whenever I want to change my body composition or my work and workout changes, it is my go-to tool and it works. I'm sure it will work for most other people short of some medical issues, but many people don't stick to it or fool themselves by 'forgetting' to log that cookie at work or those 2 spoons of sugar in each of the 4 cups of coffee they have per day. Now, appetite control is something different, and regarding that, I know many folks have problems with, both physical/hormonal and mental to which I don't want to say anything as I don't want to impose my views on other folks and don't know what they have/are going through. I actually try to stay away from nutrition discussions here in HN since there is so much crap flying based on the hip bloggers of the time that I gave up. (fad now for hacker-like mentality seems to be the Paleo and Keto diets being the holy grail of dieting. While both have good, and bad things about it, and I'm sure they have worked for various people, it is almost like discussing which religion is right)

jschwartzi 12y ago

You can get a similar effect just by switching from eating a lot of grains to eating a lot of vegetables.