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You make good points but your message gets twisted by saying things like "this is the kind of mentality I addressed. Your solution is no solution" Why not just

by sounds 12y ago

You make good points but your message gets twisted by saying things like "this is the kind of mentality I addressed. Your solution is no solution" Why not just say, "This is the status quo. I want to change things by --" ? The reason this article is trending is that the status quo is broken. Instead of outlawing Good Samaritans, why not take the time and make the effort to educate them? The educational information in your posts is quite valuable and deserves more attention than it is getting.

pdeuchler 12y ago
I realize that I probably sound like a bit of a dick, and I apologize for that, but I've been having this argument for many years and it definitely gets frustrating to explain the situation and have people essentially ignore everything you just said and say "well yeah but what about..." Part of the problem is the mentality people go into this issue with, and changing that will do wonders for the various initiatives trying to tackle this. That said, it's something I had to go through myself so I should probably be more empathetic
- joe_the_user 12y ago
  I probably sound like a bit of a dick You sound reasonable on first blush but your words are aimed to harm and crush the weak. That you put your apologies for a regime for the policing of the poor in apparently plausible and benevolent terms simply makes your words more harmful. I think you should be ashamed of yourself. Edit: Your parent post is very eloquent (if deceptive imho) argument for "give up on helping your fellow human, instead trust the authorities". Are you happy with living in a world like that really?
XtianThrowaway 12y ago
Meh. It's getting plenty of attention. If someone was wounded by that, they should realize that maybe their feelings aren't actually that important. You can't expect good communication to occur when you restrict it as you suggest. His comment wasn't anywhere near as disparaging as it can get.

by sounds 12y ago

pdeuchler 12y ago

I realize that I probably sound like a bit of a dick, and I apologize for that, but I've been having this argument for many years and it definitely gets frustrating to explain the situation and have people essentially ignore everything you just said and say "well yeah but what about..." Part of the problem is the mentality people go into this issue with, and changing that will do wonders for the various initiatives trying to tackle this. That said, it's something I had to go through myself so I should probably be more empathetic

joe_the_user 12y ago
I probably sound like a bit of a dick You sound reasonable on first blush but your words are aimed to harm and crush the weak. That you put your apologies for a regime for the policing of the poor in apparently plausible and benevolent terms simply makes your words more harmful. I think you should be ashamed of yourself. Edit: Your parent post is very eloquent (if deceptive imho) argument for "give up on helping your fellow human, instead trust the authorities". Are you happy with living in a world like that really?

XtianThrowaway 12y ago

Meh. It's getting plenty of attention. If someone was wounded by that, they should realize that maybe their feelings aren't actually that important. You can't expect good communication to occur when you restrict it as you suggest. His comment wasn't anywhere near as disparaging as it can get.