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The Vatican is also turning to crowdfunding and is now seeking donations of €5o save a single page in a manuscript, while donations of at least €1,000 will see

by netcan 12y ago

The Vatican is also turning to crowdfunding and is now seeking donations of €5o save a single page in a manuscript, while donations of at least €1,000 will see the backer included on the official supporters list If they had literally put this on kickstarter, it would have been sureal.

davidwihl 12y ago
I think the Vatican has some prior experience with crowdfunding.
- pavlov 12y ago
  Fortunately Kickstarter is not a store, so the Council of Trent [1] and Pius V should have no problem with offering indulgences as perks. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Council_of_Trent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Council_of_Trent
- simonebrunozzi 12y ago
  LOL. You are definitively right :)
TheEnder 12y ago
Does anyone know how/where I can back the crowdfunding?
- erainey 12y ago
  https://support.digitavaticana.org/ https://support.digitavaticana.org/
  - touristtam 12y ago
    The only issue I see with this method is the lack of flexibility in the amount: 5 euro per page or a 100, 1000 or 1000 euro donation as a one off or on a regular basis. What If I am willing to donate 10 euro a month? Do I have to do it manually every month .... seems a bit awkward. After all they are asking for the money, not me.
JonnieCache 12y ago
Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. They talk about "saving" the documents. Are they going to just let them rot away if we don't cough up?
- tdaltonc 12y ago
  >Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. For the same reason funded startup's use crowd funding. It demonstrates that this is something a lot of people care about and builds community buy-in around a cause. The people that run this digitization program at the vatican have bosses too and they need to justify that their project matters and deserves more time and attention.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. Pretty much all of the Catholic Church's money comes from passing the hat in one form of another, and its absolutely normal for a new initiative by a Catholic institution to be accompanied by an effort to seek direct donations to support that particular initiative.
- duaneb 12y ago
  > Surely they can afford to do it themselves. How do you think they got that way? Institutionalized panhandling.
- coliveira 12y ago
  This is how the church does everything. They never use their resources (other than personnel) to do things, instead they rely on donations and keep their money in their own pockets.
  - pbhjpbhj 12y ago
    The Church is a body of people. The people of the Church donate money towards its purposes - the preservation of manuscripts isn't a main focus of the Church and is something the support of which isn't confined to Christians (or in this instance Catholics, who may or may not be Christians!). In the same way that you might donate to a soup kitchen run by a Church fellowship, because the money goes to feeding hungry people, you might donate to manuscript preservation. That people in the Church donate their time and money towards such causes and ask for other people to donate their money doesn't seem wrong.

by netcan 12y ago

davidwihl 12y ago

I think the Vatican has some prior experience with crowdfunding.

pavlov 12y ago
Fortunately Kickstarter is not a store, so the Council of Trent [1] and Pius V should have no problem with offering indulgences as perks. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Council_of_Trent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Council_of_Trent
simonebrunozzi 12y ago
LOL. You are definitively right :)

TheEnder 12y ago

Does anyone know how/where I can back the crowdfunding?

erainey 12y ago
https://support.digitavaticana.org/ https://support.digitavaticana.org/
- touristtam 12y ago
  The only issue I see with this method is the lack of flexibility in the amount: 5 euro per page or a 100, 1000 or 1000 euro donation as a one off or on a regular basis. What If I am willing to donate 10 euro a month? Do I have to do it manually every month .... seems a bit awkward. After all they are asking for the money, not me.

JonnieCache 12y ago

Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. They talk about "saving" the documents. Are they going to just let them rot away if we don't cough up?

tdaltonc 12y ago
>Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. For the same reason funded startup's use crowd funding. It demonstrates that this is something a lot of people care about and builds community buy-in around a cause. The people that run this digitization program at the vatican have bosses too and they need to justify that their project matters and deserves more time and attention.
dragonwriter 12y ago
> Why is the catholic church panhandling in this way? Surely they can afford to do it themselves. Pretty much all of the Catholic Church's money comes from passing the hat in one form of another, and its absolutely normal for a new initiative by a Catholic institution to be accompanied by an effort to seek direct donations to support that particular initiative.
duaneb 12y ago
> Surely they can afford to do it themselves. How do you think they got that way? Institutionalized panhandling.
coliveira 12y ago
This is how the church does everything. They never use their resources (other than personnel) to do things, instead they rely on donations and keep their money in their own pockets.
- pbhjpbhj 12y ago
  The Church is a body of people. The people of the Church donate money towards its purposes - the preservation of manuscripts isn't a main focus of the Church and is something the support of which isn't confined to Christians (or in this instance Catholics, who may or may not be Christians!). In the same way that you might donate to a soup kitchen run by a Church fellowship, because the money goes to feeding hungry people, you might donate to manuscript preservation. That people in the Church donate their time and money towards such causes and ask for other people to donate their money doesn't seem wrong.