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This is probably hard for most engineers to relate to, unless part of your role is doing support. edit: when I say something is not insane or unexpected, I mea
by codezero 12y ago
This is probably hard for most engineers to relate to, unless part of your role is doing support.
edit: when I say something is not insane or unexpected, I mean it in the context of a person looking for work in customer support. These are the things you run in to. So if you are shocked that they have to provide their own hardware, then you are shocked at the way support people are often actually treated. I'm not advocating for or supporting that.
The interview process and criteria for being hired have really high variance compared to engineering interviews.
The author of this piece made the classic, and often unavoidable mistake of being between a rock and a hard place and not vetting the company she interviewed at and ultimately worked for for a day.
Even if you're not an engineer/designer/data scientist (or one of the typically highly desired people for a startup), you should be working at places you love and believe in, when you're not, you end up having bad experiences and those bad experiences are amplified by the environment.
First, I didn't find Ajay's interview to be that weird, saying why you came up with the idea for your company and your qualifications should be expected, not interpreted as a way for the founder to diminish the potential future employee. If you don't believe in your leaders, and don't trust them, you are in a lot of trouble.
edit: I think that not having interviewed with the actual support team members is a huge red flag here as well, but owing to the author's somewhat desperate situation, they moved forward anyways.
12 hour days is insane, and wrong. Having to provide your own device is not really that insane for small teams. Obviously it's great if a company provides it, and probably larger companies should always provide a workstation, but this doesn't come across as totally abnormal. The constant "want to hear a joke" and racist/sexist tone at the company is also not acceptable, but clearly was supported by the people working there at the time, if the anecdote is taken at face value.
It's super easy to pay for a trial period, and as far as I'm aware, it's not even legal to have people work for free unless you are a nonprofit or government organization, so that's shady, even if only for one day. I've done two week trials that were fully paid, and it was a great way to get a feel for the company and vice versa.
Not having any onboarding, given that the trial was for a day isn't too surprising, but that is clearly a problem with a one day trial. They should have absolutely been given some lead-in material to help them get prepped before starting.
There appear to be a lot of growing pains at Handy, which isn't a surprise, but hopefully they can move fast and get their support/service wing to be as tight and focused as the rest of their team (assuming that is true).
- potatolicious 12y ago> "Having to provide your own device is not really that insane for small teams." Not that unusual to garage or ramen-stage companies sure, but these are guys with an office in one of the hottest startup hubs of Manhattan with $45 million in funding. It's also insane - trusting hardware of unknown provenance with your customer experience? Is it really that hard to buy a few iMacs (or cheapo Dell desktops if that's your speed) for your support reps to use? That way hardware that's critical to your support infrastructure isn't traveling on the subway every day, getting broken, stolen, or god-knows-what. This is a Series B startup with $45m in funding so far, they should be way past the point of being able to buy some company machines for people to work on.
- TarpitCarnivore 12y agoAt a minimum buy some mac mini's to leave in the office with some phones. Requiring use of own hardware on top of 12 hour shifts for a company with $45m in funding is just silly.
- kasey_junk 12y agoAnd possibly illegal.
- lmg643 12y agoHow does a company like this get $45 million in funding? Is that really cash in the bank, or "on paper, committed under certain circumstances, with only $1 million actually in the bank as of today?" I guess I just don't understand how a business like this could ever get funded to $45 million. Where's the competitive advantage? India sent a satellite to orbit mars for $74 million, these guys have people answering phones to book odd jobs for $45 million?
- jonknee 12y ago> India sent a satellite to orbit mars for $74 million, these guys have people answering phones to book odd jobs for $45 million? And the phones aren't even provided by the $45,000,000! Lunch is though, so maybe that's what the big bucks get you.