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27" Retina iMac at 5120x2880 which they are calling "5K" edit: Dell previewed a similar screen last month[1] a "world first" but won't ship til December (5K iM

by Steko 12y ago

27" Retina iMac at 5120x2880 which they are calling "5K" edit: Dell previewed a similar screen last month[1] a "world first" but won't ship til December (5K iMac shipping today if I heard right?). No price on Dell screen, rumor was $2,500 but Apple's throwing in a computer for the same price so I doubt that will hold up. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8272702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8272702

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
Finally. Really, I'll probably buy this, but it's more important that it takes desktop computing is finally moving on from ridiculous low res displays.
- Steko 12y ago
  I didn't see a mention that it's 60 Hz yet but we'll see.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    Custom timing processor, I would guess so. $2499, wow, I wonder what it wil be in rmb.
- slantyyz 12y ago
  >> ridiculous low res displays. Like many people, my vision took a hit when I turned 40, so I have to disagree with that statement. While YMMV, 1080p on a 27" monitor is not ridiculously low res for the average person. Anything between 100-130 dpi is more than fine enough with me at my viewing distances. Speaking only for my use case -- when I'm doing work, I'd prefer a >= 4K resolution that gives me more real estate over one that gives me denser pixels, which is why I would choose a 40" 4K monitor over a 28" 4K monitor, because the pixels on the smaller monitor are simply wasted on my aging eyes. To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography. I left gamers out of the list, because I don't know if the R9 M290X is actually powerful enough to drive a game at native res at 60fps.
  - roeme 12y ago
    > 1080p on a 27" monitor is not ridiculously low res for the average person. OTOH, now I have to disagree with you a bit. I'm currently using 1080p on a 24" and while I'm ok with it so far (everyone else using the screen, ranging from ages 10 to 55 has no issue either), I would under no circumstances go lower than this. And it's not like my vision has improved since my 20's (in the 30s currently). But, as the interested reader realizes at this point, it really boils down more to the defition of 'average person'. > To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography Did you intend to leave out programmers? I'm asking because for instance, I prefer to do my readings on paper than on screen; simply because of the higher dpi/'ppi'. And after having worked a bit with a Retina display, I can't almost can't wait to do my work on one...
    - slantyyz 12y ago
      >> it really boils down more to the defition of 'average person'. That's fair. On my 15" 1680x1050 MBP (~175dpi), almost anyone(different ages) who came to look at my screen would make some negative comment about having to squint to read the text, especially if I'm running Windows. My 27" 1080p monitor is lower density, but it's also about a foot farther than where a laptop screen would be for me. >> Did you intend to leave out programmers? Yes, but let me explain my logic: I think most programmers would rather have the equivalent of four 1080p screens worth of text editors and debugging windows than sharper text quality on a single smaller screen. Having both real estate and dpi, of course, would be even more ideal.
      - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
        I'd actually prefer my text to work better. 27" is about my limit for real estate before I start getting neck strain.
- roeme 12y ago
  > but it's more important that it takes desktop computing is finally moving on from ridiculous low res displays. The question is, how long will it take until high res becomes available broadly? Apple had to create their own¹ display here, and I doubt they'll share the secret sauce lightly. I suspect they're already holding back, since I'm in search for some Hi-Res desktop display for some time now. Almost everybody cheats by simply upping the display size, instead of the pixel density. And it's not like the retina display hasn't been around for 2 years now! It's either that, or they're simply scooping up all or a significant amount of the available supply for themselves. ¹To some extent, i.e. at least the controller chip

by Steko 12y ago

seanmcdirmid 12y ago

Finally. Really, I'll probably buy this, but it's more important that it takes desktop computing is finally moving on from ridiculous low res displays.

Steko 12y ago
I didn't see a mention that it's 60 Hz yet but we'll see.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  Custom timing processor, I would guess so. $2499, wow, I wonder what it wil be in rmb.
slantyyz 12y ago
>> ridiculous low res displays. Like many people, my vision took a hit when I turned 40, so I have to disagree with that statement. While YMMV, 1080p on a 27" monitor is not ridiculously low res for the average person. Anything between 100-130 dpi is more than fine enough with me at my viewing distances. Speaking only for my use case -- when I'm doing work, I'd prefer a >= 4K resolution that gives me more real estate over one that gives me denser pixels, which is why I would choose a 40" 4K monitor over a 28" 4K monitor, because the pixels on the smaller monitor are simply wasted on my aging eyes. To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography. I left gamers out of the list, because I don't know if the R9 M290X is actually powerful enough to drive a game at native res at 60fps.
- roeme 12y ago
  > 1080p on a 27" monitor is not ridiculously low res for the average person. OTOH, now I have to disagree with you a bit. I'm currently using 1080p on a 24" and while I'm ok with it so far (everyone else using the screen, ranging from ages 10 to 55 has no issue either), I would under no circumstances go lower than this. And it's not like my vision has improved since my 20's (in the 30s currently). But, as the interested reader realizes at this point, it really boils down more to the defition of 'average person'. > To me, the main beneficiaries of the new 5K iMac are designers and people who work with (or care a lot about) video and photography Did you intend to leave out programmers? I'm asking because for instance, I prefer to do my readings on paper than on screen; simply because of the higher dpi/'ppi'. And after having worked a bit with a Retina display, I can't almost can't wait to do my work on one...
  - slantyyz 12y ago
    >> it really boils down more to the defition of 'average person'. That's fair. On my 15" 1680x1050 MBP (~175dpi), almost anyone(different ages) who came to look at my screen would make some negative comment about having to squint to read the text, especially if I'm running Windows. My 27" 1080p monitor is lower density, but it's also about a foot farther than where a laptop screen would be for me. >> Did you intend to leave out programmers? Yes, but let me explain my logic: I think most programmers would rather have the equivalent of four 1080p screens worth of text editors and debugging windows than sharper text quality on a single smaller screen. Having both real estate and dpi, of course, would be even more ideal.
    - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
      I'd actually prefer my text to work better. 27" is about my limit for real estate before I start getting neck strain.
roeme 12y ago
> but it's more important that it takes desktop computing is finally moving on from ridiculous low res displays. The question is, how long will it take until high res becomes available broadly? Apple had to create their own¹ display here, and I doubt they'll share the secret sauce lightly. I suspect they're already holding back, since I'm in search for some Hi-Res desktop display for some time now. Almost everybody cheats by simply upping the display size, instead of the pixel density. And it's not like the retina display hasn't been around for 2 years now! It's either that, or they're simply scooping up all or a significant amount of the available supply for themselves. ¹To some extent, i.e. at least the controller chip