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> It's almost insulting to do armchair pharmacology and assume you know better than the doctor who's trained for years. Yeah but doctors in the U.S. basically

> It's almost insulting to do armchair pharmacology and assume you know better than the doctor who's trained for years. Yeah but doctors in the U.S. basically get fake medical training, which is (partly) the point of this article.

phren0logy 12y ago
What are you talking about? Medical training is more rigorous than ever, and requires constant testing, continuing education, and renewal of board certification. All while competing groups have sought independent prescribing privileges with none of these assurances.
- Alex3917 12y ago
  > Medical training is more rigorous than ever, and requires constant testing, continuing education, and renewal of board certification. - Much of the med school curriculum isn't based on science at all. This article gives several examples of that. - Of the part that is based on science, much of the science is completely wrong for various reasons. - Medical education mostly consists of sponsored content that's paid for by pharma companies rather than students/doctors, at least for continuing education.
  - adventured 12y ago
    You're making extraordinary claims, with zero evidence to support what you're claiming. For example: "much of the med school curriculum isn't based on science at all" Ok, now show me the proof to back up that statement so I can verify for myself that you're not just opining. "Of the part that is based on science, much of the science is completely wrong for various reasons" Ok, which parts, and prove that it's wrong. At least support your extreme claims. "Medical education mostly consists of sponsored content that's paid for by pharma companies rather than students/doctors, at least for continuing education." More truly massive claims. "Mostly" typically implies majority. You've got a lot of proving to do.
    - Alex3917 12y ago
      So basically it's not your job to read books and become well educated, it's my job to do your homework for you. Good luck with that.
adventured 12y ago
Doctors on average in the US in fact receive an education and training level that competes with the very best in the world. In regards to doctors and nurses, the US produces a very high quality output. Quality has rarely been the problem in the US (cost is). That has been the case for at least the last 70 or 80 years, going back to or before WW2. That's why America has many of the top rated hospitals: they're staffed by the best doctors. It's not the buildings that make them so good, it's the staff. The US was famous for decades for having the world's best doctors and facilities. The world's rich and powerful would fly to America for treatment. It still possesses that reputation for quality.

phren0logy 12y ago

What are you talking about? Medical training is more rigorous than ever, and requires constant testing, continuing education, and renewal of board certification. All while competing groups have sought independent prescribing privileges with none of these assurances.

Alex3917 12y ago
> Medical training is more rigorous than ever, and requires constant testing, continuing education, and renewal of board certification. - Much of the med school curriculum isn't based on science at all. This article gives several examples of that. - Of the part that is based on science, much of the science is completely wrong for various reasons. - Medical education mostly consists of sponsored content that's paid for by pharma companies rather than students/doctors, at least for continuing education.
- adventured 12y ago
  You're making extraordinary claims, with zero evidence to support what you're claiming. For example: "much of the med school curriculum isn't based on science at all" Ok, now show me the proof to back up that statement so I can verify for myself that you're not just opining. "Of the part that is based on science, much of the science is completely wrong for various reasons" Ok, which parts, and prove that it's wrong. At least support your extreme claims. "Medical education mostly consists of sponsored content that's paid for by pharma companies rather than students/doctors, at least for continuing education." More truly massive claims. "Mostly" typically implies majority. You've got a lot of proving to do.
  - Alex3917 12y ago
    So basically it's not your job to read books and become well educated, it's my job to do your homework for you. Good luck with that.

adventured 12y ago

Doctors on average in the US in fact receive an education and training level that competes with the very best in the world. In regards to doctors and nurses, the US produces a very high quality output. Quality has rarely been the problem in the US (cost is). That has been the case for at least the last 70 or 80 years, going back to or before WW2. That's why America has many of the top rated hospitals: they're staffed by the best doctors. It's not the buildings that make them so good, it's the staff. The US was famous for decades for having the world's best doctors and facilities. The world's rich and powerful would fly to America for treatment. It still possesses that reputation for quality.