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Any chance we can see scores when we're looking at our own comments section? Often when I notice a bump in my karma I look at my comment threads to see what wa

Any chance we can see scores when we're looking at our own comments section? Often when I notice a bump in my karma I look at my comment threads to see what was so popular.

patio11 17y ago
I am not alone in the world! And to register this, I clicked the up arrow next to the comment above me, but it redirected me to a blank page. (Chrome, Windows Vista.)
- deleted 17y ago
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- pg 17y ago
  Hmm, will investigate.
  - pg 17y ago
    Ok, should be fixed now. Sorry, the javascript for modifying displayed scores was breaking now that there weren't any.
    - axod 17y ago
      Now when I upmod a story on the main page, the score of the story doesn't change :/ BTW Cool experiment, think it might get rid of some of the group-think
      - 10ren 17y ago
        Same problem when upvoting the story on its comment page (e.g. here). It seems to be the javascript: the score is increased if you reload the page.
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- plinkplonk 17y ago
  same here (FireFox 3.5.3, Ubuntu Jaunty) EDIT: Fixed. Wow that was fast!
  - deleted 17y ago
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    - plinkplonk 17y ago
      "arc ftw" REPL ftw?
    - apotheon 17y ago
      Good programmer FTW.
- ashishk 17y ago
  works fine for me. FF on OSX
pg 17y ago
Ok, now there should be scores next to your own comments. Better?
- joshuaxls 17y ago
  That's great. Thanks. I really love this idea, by the way.
- dcurtis 17y ago
  You know how sometimes online stores won't tell you the price of something until you add it to your cart? Hacker News feels kind of like that now. Like price, comment score is the best indicator of context, class, and quality. I feel kind of lost.
  - masklinn 17y ago
    > Like price, comment score is the best indicator of context, class, and quality. It can be when the site is new and only an overall smart population lives on it, but yc is (I guess) growing, and as it grows the quality of the voting (and therefore the score) decreases: insightful comments running against the general opinion get mercilessly downvoted, useless comments matching the general opinion rise.
  - lamby 17y ago
    Surely the content is the best indicator of context, class, and quality? If you feel lost, perhaps you were relying too much on others to judge an opinion for yourself?
    - Herring 17y ago
      That's the entire premise behind this site: popular items become more visible. There just isn't enough time to go through all the content; it's much easier to learn the site's bias & compensate.
      - unalone 17y ago
        There just isn't enough time to go through all the content; it's much easier to learn the site's bias & compensate. That's one man's opinion. I read all the comments on every thread here, and find that not all the high-quality comments rise to the top. It's hit-and-miss. In a way that invalidates the theory of upvote-judging, no? It's a shitty system that forces you to adapt to biases. Right now PG's experimenting with removing a bias and improving the system. You're arguing that it would be better if he left the system flawed.
shaunxcode 17y ago
If you click on "threads" to see your comments it still shows your scores per comment.
- pg 17y ago
  I just added that.
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    "I just added that." This is great. So now I can see which of my comments are getting voted up/down and so have feedback for my writing, but I have to vote other comments up or down based on content (and author sometimes I guess).
    - jubbam 17y ago
      Just curious... why author? Why not just content?
      - plinkplonk 17y ago
        "Just curious... why author? Why not just content?" Oh i was just referring to the "vote pg up anyway" trend. If the author is someone you know (and I've made many friends from YC) there is a minor incentive to upvote a comment even if it doesn't read well because you know the person and can guess at what he was trying to say. So instead of judge(content), the subroutine becomes judge(content, person). It sort of feels like "voice tone" is added to a comment if you know the person. The "tone" and (perceived) intent with which something is said makes a huge difference This could lead to a known troll getting a downvote and a known "good guy" getting an upvote for the same comment. And that is probably a good thing.
        jacquesm 17y ago
        I'm not so sure about that. I think content should stand on its own, regardless of who wrote it.

Any chance we can see scores when we're looking at our own comments section? Often when I notice a bump in my karma I look at my comment threads to see what was so popular.

patio11 17y ago

I am not alone in the world! And to register this, I clicked the up arrow next to the comment above me, but it redirected me to a blank page. (Chrome, Windows Vista.)

deleted 17y ago
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pg 17y ago
Hmm, will investigate.
- pg 17y ago
  Ok, should be fixed now. Sorry, the javascript for modifying displayed scores was breaking now that there weren't any.
  - axod 17y ago
    Now when I upmod a story on the main page, the score of the story doesn't change :/ BTW Cool experiment, think it might get rid of some of the group-think
    - 10ren 17y ago
      Same problem when upvoting the story on its comment page (e.g. here). It seems to be the javascript: the score is increased if you reload the page.
deleted 17y ago
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plinkplonk 17y ago
same here (FireFox 3.5.3, Ubuntu Jaunty) EDIT: Fixed. Wow that was fast!
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    "arc ftw" REPL ftw?
  - apotheon 17y ago
    Good programmer FTW.
ashishk 17y ago
works fine for me. FF on OSX

pg 17y ago

Ok, now there should be scores next to your own comments. Better?

joshuaxls 17y ago
That's great. Thanks. I really love this idea, by the way.
dcurtis 17y ago
You know how sometimes online stores won't tell you the price of something until you add it to your cart? Hacker News feels kind of like that now. Like price, comment score is the best indicator of context, class, and quality. I feel kind of lost.
- masklinn 17y ago
  > Like price, comment score is the best indicator of context, class, and quality. It can be when the site is new and only an overall smart population lives on it, but yc is (I guess) growing, and as it grows the quality of the voting (and therefore the score) decreases: insightful comments running against the general opinion get mercilessly downvoted, useless comments matching the general opinion rise.
- lamby 17y ago
  Surely the content is the best indicator of context, class, and quality? If you feel lost, perhaps you were relying too much on others to judge an opinion for yourself?
  - Herring 17y ago
    That's the entire premise behind this site: popular items become more visible. There just isn't enough time to go through all the content; it's much easier to learn the site's bias & compensate.
    - unalone 17y ago
      There just isn't enough time to go through all the content; it's much easier to learn the site's bias & compensate. That's one man's opinion. I read all the comments on every thread here, and find that not all the high-quality comments rise to the top. It's hit-and-miss. In a way that invalidates the theory of upvote-judging, no? It's a shitty system that forces you to adapt to biases. Right now PG's experimenting with removing a bias and improving the system. You're arguing that it would be better if he left the system flawed.

shaunxcode 17y ago

If you click on "threads" to see your comments it still shows your scores per comment.

pg 17y ago
I just added that.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  "I just added that." This is great. So now I can see which of my comments are getting voted up/down and so have feedback for my writing, but I have to vote other comments up or down based on content (and author sometimes I guess).
  - jubbam 17y ago
    Just curious... why author? Why not just content?
    - plinkplonk 17y ago
      "Just curious... why author? Why not just content?" Oh i was just referring to the "vote pg up anyway" trend. If the author is someone you know (and I've made many friends from YC) there is a minor incentive to upvote a comment even if it doesn't read well because you know the person and can guess at what he was trying to say. So instead of judge(content), the subroutine becomes judge(content, person). It sort of feels like "voice tone" is added to a comment if you know the person. The "tone" and (perceived) intent with which something is said makes a huge difference This could lead to a known troll getting a downvote and a known "good guy" getting an upvote for the same comment. And that is probably a good thing.
      - jacquesm 17y ago
        I'm not so sure about that. I think content should stand on its own, regardless of who wrote it.