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I ride a GSXR 600 and it has the same 3.2 sec 0-60. It still rattles me every time I push it that fast. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how they can

by jmtame 12y ago

I ride a GSXR 600 and it has the same 3.2 sec 0-60. It still rattles me every time I push it that fast. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how they can replicate that experience inside of an _electric_ car. Can't wait to test drive it :)

semerda 12y ago
Bike vs Car acceleration feels different on the driver but I echo your views. Cars have the advantage of back support which essentially feels like a plane taking off - pinned & safe. And if you have a bucket seat then it's more fun round the corners while the adrenaline rushes. The P85D would be a great track car!
agumonkey 12y ago
I thought you were talking about another car. Then I reread he model number. Now we all have a (very telling) comparison point.
- scott_karana 12y ago
  > Now we all have a (very telling) comparison point. Yes, an oranges to apples one. A $10,000 bike compared to a $100,000 car? A ~400 pound machine compared to a ~5000 pound one? Yes, the Tesla is really cool, and has staggering acceleration, but let's not get silly with comparisons (and accolades) here.
  - agumonkey 12y ago
    Come on, I meant about communicating what kind of acceleration you'd experience. I rarely bump into sports car, but I've seen a lot of GSXR-class bikes.
    - scott_karana 12y ago
      Sorry, in that case! I made a poor assumption :-/ You're right, it sounds like a reasonable frame of reference.
      - agumonkey 12y ago
        Classic internet. Have a nice day :)
azernik 12y ago
Electric vehicles' strong suit has always been high acceleration. I know a motorcycle fan who tried out a high-powered electric cycle, and even with some serious power limiters it was still much more of a kick when accelerating up to high speed than anything gas-powered could pull off.
Florin_Andrei 12y ago
Yeah, first time I hit the powerband on the sportbike I almost fell off it. I remember it very well, even though it was years ago. The power/weight ratio is staggering. > I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how they can replicate that experience inside of an _electric_ car. Your gixxer (and my poor, now deceased, ninja) could only do it because these are vehicles not much heavier than 2x the weight of the owner. Insane power/weight ratio will do that for you. But their engines, like any internal combustion engine, suck at low speed. Have you seen the dyno curve for torque? It's really low at first, and only then starts climbing, and climbing, and climbing. An electric engine gives you maximum torque at any speed. Now imagine that on your sportbike. ;) When technology is more mature, all electric engines will run circles around internal combustion, on the 0-60 track.
spullara 12y ago
All the latest super cars breaking records using electric motors. The fastest car Car & Driver ever tested is the 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder — 0-60 in 2.2s. A hybrid, just like the new P1 from Mclaren.

by jmtame 12y ago

semerda 12y ago

Bike vs Car acceleration feels different on the driver but I echo your views. Cars have the advantage of back support which essentially feels like a plane taking off - pinned & safe. And if you have a bucket seat then it's more fun round the corners while the adrenaline rushes. The P85D would be a great track car!

agumonkey 12y ago

I thought you were talking about another car. Then I reread he model number. Now we all have a (very telling) comparison point.

scott_karana 12y ago
> Now we all have a (very telling) comparison point. Yes, an oranges to apples one. A $10,000 bike compared to a $100,000 car? A ~400 pound machine compared to a ~5000 pound one? Yes, the Tesla is really cool, and has staggering acceleration, but let's not get silly with comparisons (and accolades) here.
- agumonkey 12y ago
  Come on, I meant about communicating what kind of acceleration you'd experience. I rarely bump into sports car, but I've seen a lot of GSXR-class bikes.
  - scott_karana 12y ago
    Sorry, in that case! I made a poor assumption :-/ You're right, it sounds like a reasonable frame of reference.
    - agumonkey 12y ago
      Classic internet. Have a nice day :)

azernik 12y ago

Electric vehicles' strong suit has always been high acceleration. I know a motorcycle fan who tried out a high-powered electric cycle, and even with some serious power limiters it was still much more of a kick when accelerating up to high speed than anything gas-powered could pull off.

Florin_Andrei 12y ago

Yeah, first time I hit the powerband on the sportbike I almost fell off it. I remember it very well, even though it was years ago. The power/weight ratio is staggering. > I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how they can replicate that experience inside of an _electric_ car. Your gixxer (and my poor, now deceased, ninja) could only do it because these are vehicles not much heavier than 2x the weight of the owner. Insane power/weight ratio will do that for you. But their engines, like any internal combustion engine, suck at low speed. Have you seen the dyno curve for torque? It's really low at first, and only then starts climbing, and climbing, and climbing. An electric engine gives you maximum torque at any speed. Now imagine that on your sportbike. ;) When technology is more mature, all electric engines will run circles around internal combustion, on the 0-60 track.

spullara 12y ago

All the latest super cars breaking records using electric motors. The fastest car Car & Driver ever tested is the 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder — 0-60 in 2.2s. A hybrid, just like the new P1 from Mclaren.