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Your girlfriend's main page is quite nice. The frames link, though, reawakened fear I'd not felt in years. Haven't been to yours, so that her hit counter has

Your girlfriend's main page is quite nice. The frames link, though, reawakened fear I'd not felt in years. Haven't been to yours, so that her hit counter has a chance to catch up. ;-)

archedeyebrow 12y ago
You, sir or ma'am, are a gentleman and a scholar. I literally just created this account to thank you. PS if you know how to make a link target a frame in a nested frameset, please let me know. It must go deeper.
- Intermernet 12y ago
  I haven't dealt with framesets for almost 20 years (I'm still scarred), but I seem to recall that you can target nested frames just by providing them with a unique "name" attribute. I may be wrong though. You may also want to change the doctype header to use the HTML 4 "frameset.dtd" instead of the "strict.dtd". Just change the first line of your frame-enabled pages to: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> Or, for extra 90's authenticity, you could use the HTML v3.2 doctype: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
  - archedeyebrow 12y ago
    But what I'm after is recursion. Rather than make 20 individual frameset pages each with different target="name"s, it would be way cooler simply to populate each frame area with itself. Pedantic props for the doctype tip. EDIT: In theory this should work, but browsers are uncooperative: http://tilde.club/~arch/frames-odd.html http://tilde.club/~arch/frames-odd.html
    - Intermernet 12y ago
      According to http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-frames-970331 http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-frames-970331 : "Infinite recursion is prevented. Any frame that attempts to assign as its SRC a URL used by any of its ancestors is treated as if it has no SRC URL at all (basically a blank frame). This doesn't prevent all malicious documents, but it eliminates a troublesome class of them." Ah well, probably for the best really... It seems to have a recursion limit of 10 on Firefox, and 12 on Chrome. I cheated by creating your original frameset pattern and then just recursing index.html in the middle frame. It improves the recursion effect a bit, but still isn't infinite. http://downloads.intermer.net/frames/ http://downloads.intermer.net/frames/
- mikeleeorg 12y ago
  Wow, another NYU grad! Rock on. Too bad they didn't keep an archive of my first website way back in 1995.

Your girlfriend's main page is quite nice. The frames link, though, reawakened fear I'd not felt in years. Haven't been to yours, so that her hit counter has a chance to catch up. ;-)

archedeyebrow 12y ago

You, sir or ma'am, are a gentleman and a scholar. I literally just created this account to thank you. PS if you know how to make a link target a frame in a nested frameset, please let me know. It must go deeper.

Intermernet 12y ago
I haven't dealt with framesets for almost 20 years (I'm still scarred), but I seem to recall that you can target nested frames just by providing them with a unique "name" attribute. I may be wrong though. You may also want to change the doctype header to use the HTML 4 "frameset.dtd" instead of the "strict.dtd". Just change the first line of your frame-enabled pages to: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> Or, for extra 90's authenticity, you could use the HTML v3.2 doctype: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
- archedeyebrow 12y ago
  But what I'm after is recursion. Rather than make 20 individual frameset pages each with different target="name"s, it would be way cooler simply to populate each frame area with itself. Pedantic props for the doctype tip. EDIT: In theory this should work, but browsers are uncooperative: http://tilde.club/~arch/frames-odd.html http://tilde.club/~arch/frames-odd.html
  - Intermernet 12y ago
    According to http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-frames-970331 http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-frames-970331 : "Infinite recursion is prevented. Any frame that attempts to assign as its SRC a URL used by any of its ancestors is treated as if it has no SRC URL at all (basically a blank frame). This doesn't prevent all malicious documents, but it eliminates a troublesome class of them." Ah well, probably for the best really... It seems to have a recursion limit of 10 on Firefox, and 12 on Chrome. I cheated by creating your original frameset pattern and then just recursing index.html in the middle frame. It improves the recursion effect a bit, but still isn't infinite. http://downloads.intermer.net/frames/ http://downloads.intermer.net/frames/
mikeleeorg 12y ago
Wow, another NYU grad! Rock on. Too bad they didn't keep an archive of my first website way back in 1995.