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One of the USA's problems is the education system (and I'm not talking about its quality here). If you thing in the long term, counting in your future kids' edu

One of the USA's problems is the education system (and I'm not talking about its quality here). If you thing in the long term, counting in your future kids' education, you may wish to reconsider USA altogether. Another problem is the healthcare system and the chances of one to actually afford it when the time comes - HN had a few good articles about the subject. And there may be other somewhat lesser problems too.

joeclark77 12y ago
In the USA you're still allowed to homeschool, at least. In many other countries, such as Germany, that makes you a criminal.
- forgotpasswd3x 12y ago
  Ok, I'll take the bait. Why shouldn't it? Germany has very good schools. By denying your child the ability to attend, you are committing an offense to the child. Why should this be allowed?
  - scourge 12y ago
    I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse). The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bunch of criminals. Also see Steiner schools, unschooling etc etc. The evidence would indicate that doing the BEST thing for your children would make you a criminal in most first world states. If you wonder why the electorate has become more malleable, "stupid" and gullible in the last 100 years, maybe you should look into why this is. It's not because we are "devolving" or because people are stupider now. They are forced, trained and educated to be thus.
    - userulluipeste 12y ago
      Its an interesting take on German Education. However, people admire Germany and Germans for results and for how they function as a society. Doesn't this in itself excuse the bad consequences?
      - scourge 12y ago
        It depends: is one comparing to the average society or full human potential?
      - joeclark77 12y ago
        Imagine if you had said that in 1938 or so. Most of the American left was saying just that sort of thing then, too.
  - joeclark77 12y ago
    Germany isn't arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families for poor test scores. They're arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families because they're Christian. Google the Romeike family (who escaped) and the Wunderlich family (who didn't) for some examples. Also, a shorter answer to your question: Because Germany signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. See Article 26(3).
kasey_junk 12y ago
I think the education & health care system in the US are huge points of concern both from a larger policy perspective and from a social justice stand point. That said, I personally have never had an issue with either and doubt if I were starting over as a 20 year old all over again would worry about it much. I'm much more worried about things like social & political stability, cost of living, and if I'm being perfectly honest, weather & food.

joeclark77 12y ago

In the USA you're still allowed to homeschool, at least. In many other countries, such as Germany, that makes you a criminal.

forgotpasswd3x 12y ago
Ok, I'll take the bait. Why shouldn't it? Germany has very good schools. By denying your child the ability to attend, you are committing an offense to the child. Why should this be allowed?
- scourge 12y ago
  I totally agree that Germany has a pretty good system. Their forest schools are a step in the right direction. But they did invent the Prussian model of modern schools (which are a curse). The point is, it should NEVER be illegal to refuse to send your children to a militarized system which has stunted and de-humanized every single person in the modern system. In the UK, they ever tried to make Summerhill school a bunch of criminals. Also see Steiner schools, unschooling etc etc. The evidence would indicate that doing the BEST thing for your children would make you a criminal in most first world states. If you wonder why the electorate has become more malleable, "stupid" and gullible in the last 100 years, maybe you should look into why this is. It's not because we are "devolving" or because people are stupider now. They are forced, trained and educated to be thus.
  - userulluipeste 12y ago
    Its an interesting take on German Education. However, people admire Germany and Germans for results and for how they function as a society. Doesn't this in itself excuse the bad consequences?
    - scourge 12y ago
      It depends: is one comparing to the average society or full human potential?
    - joeclark77 12y ago
      Imagine if you had said that in 1938 or so. Most of the American left was saying just that sort of thing then, too.
- joeclark77 12y ago
  Germany isn't arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families for poor test scores. They're arresting parents, taking their children away, and sending them to re-education by government-approved foster families because they're Christian. Google the Romeike family (who escaped) and the Wunderlich family (who didn't) for some examples. Also, a shorter answer to your question: Because Germany signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. See Article 26(3).

kasey_junk 12y ago

I think the education & health care system in the US are huge points of concern both from a larger policy perspective and from a social justice stand point. That said, I personally have never had an issue with either and doubt if I were starting over as a 20 year old all over again would worry about it much. I'm much more worried about things like social & political stability, cost of living, and if I'm being perfectly honest, weather & food.