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Django gaining or Rails waning?
- yrck 17y agoAdd drupal.org on there to get a different idea. I would say that there is less money in custom web development so there is less interest in the tools all together.
- butterfi 17y agoI added Drupal in that mix as well and was pleasantly surprised. I disagree that there is less money in custom development though. All the Drupal developers (and I know a fair amount) I know are buried in work...
- thenduks 17y agoAs someone who has used both frameworks extensively, I like to add an interesting tidbit: Considering my Rails work: I visited rubyonrails.org only once, when I first heard about it - it's primary focus isn't as a resource site and I don't know any other Rails developers that use it as one. Considering my Django work: I had djangoproject.com open practically all the time, every day, since it's a primary destination for everything related to the project.
- mikeryan 17y agoI was going to agree with you, I almost never use the rubyonrails.org main site. But I tried putting api.rubyonrails.org and apparently that also falls under the rubyonrails.org domain which I use quite a bit for rails dev.
- thenduks 17y agoThere is some content there, for sure. I used gotapi instead of api.rubyonrails.org most of the time (they have other stuff there too, of course, which is handy). I have since switched to just looking stuff up in the source because I'm pretty familiar with it.
- ballen 17y agoAgreed, never used the main site. Apidock.com is my main source for Rails info. Also I think some of the Ruby micro-frameworks may be gaining popularity.
- thenduks 17y agoI came across guides.rubyonrails.org just recently. It's actually very useful. If it was around when I was starting out I would have been there a lot. As for the microframeworks, I'm with you. I don't build apps in Rails from day 1 anymore, I generally use Sinatra instead and sometimes (for smaller apps) there ends up being no reason to switch to Rails.
- nixme 17y agoWhy is this a competition?
- boggles 17y agoIt's a competition for jobs and influence within the industry. Nothing to sniff at.
- carbon8 17y agoThat might be relevant if it actually reflected jobs available, but it doesn't, not even remotely (see my comments here for numbers: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=805931 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=805931) Note also that according to the trends graph, djangoproject's visitors have also been steadily declining over the past year.
- stanleydrew 17y agonot necessarily visitors, just searches.
- carbon8 17y ago"Daily Unique Visitors" is what the graph claims to show.
- thismat 17y agoI agree, they both seem to be great frameworks, I've used rails and love it, and I've planned a project to learn Django with as it's peaked my interest. Why can't we all enjoy the differences and enjoy them for different reasons? Do we spread ourselves too thin when we bounce around learning the basics of different frameworks? Or are we simply stocking our utility belt with more solutions to problems?
- whirlycott1 17y agoI don't think so... it seems like the centers of gravity are just shifting around a bit. Look at github: http://trends.google.com/websites?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.djangoproject.com%2F%2C+http%3A%2F%2Frubyonrails.org%2F%2C+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.github.com%2F&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 http://trends.google.com/websites?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.djangop...
- calvin 17y agoKeyword search trends: "Ruby on Rails" v. "Django": http://trends.google.com/trends?q=django,+%22ruby+on+rails%22&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 http://trends.google.com/trends?q=django,+%22ruby+on+rails%2... Update: Yes, I know it's a rough estimate, and if you can find a way to do a more refined filter on Google Trends, please share it and make us all the wiser. "Python Django" doesn't provide good results for comparison. Update (2): Filtered out some of the noise: http://trends.google.com/trends?q=django+-restaurant,+%22ruby+on+rails%22&ctab=-1&geo=all&date=all http://trends.google.com/trends?q=django+-restaurant,+%22rub... -- still looking for a way to exclude the musician from results
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- shabda 17y agoOk, I said the parent comment link was biased in Favor of Django, but your si biased in favor of rails, most ppl looking for Ror search for "Ruby on Rail" (Which is its proper name), but most ppl looking for Django search for Django(proper name), not python Django.
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- shabda 17y agoI like and use Django, but thats a 100% wrong trend as about 50% of Django searches are searching for Django the musician.
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- dabeeeenster 17y agoHow do you know that?
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- xal 17y agoMaybe, but don't forget that there is also rubyonrails.com that you have to add on top (both are valid). Also, rails.com is not as much a destination page as django.com. Most rails programmers rely on books to learn it and use API docs that are hosted on third party pages.
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- tptacek 17y agoThere are more Python devs in the world than Ruby devs, so my read is that Python was simply artificially supressed for multiple years for lack of a user-friendly webdev toolkit; with Django, Python is both catching up and no longer bleeding Python devs to Rails. Obviously, Rails and Django are also at different points on the hype cycle.
- bad_user 17y agoI recently started using Django for a personal project. I wasn't really aware there was hype around it. I remember when it was launched that it had some hype as it was touted as a Rails alternative, but earlier versions like 0.95 were awful anyway. It's a cool framework though. I like the plugins available.
- amalcon 17y agoThere's been some hype as an indirect result of Google App Engine.
- carbon8 17y agoSpring gaining or Django waning? http://trends.google.com/websites?q=djangoproject.com%2C+springsource.org&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 http://trends.google.com/websites?q=djangoproject.com%2C+spr... Really, HN should be above this inanity.
- quellhorst 17y agoOr overall search volume is increasing driving them closer together. Useless graph without numbers of left axis.
- dpnewman 17y agoAbsurd to use either the site traffic or search term ranking comparison. I will say, in san fran at most of the recent startup-y events i have attended rails has been far more represented than django. now this isn't scientific either by any stretch ...just a sense from real world engagement.
- omouse 17y agoWHO CARES?