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Was originally going to post "Well that's a big fat 'DUH!!!!'", but then I thought better. It's good to have studies to back up these sorts of things that typi

Was originally going to post "Well that's a big fat 'DUH!!!!'", but then I thought better. It's good to have studies to back up these sorts of things that typically get treated as common sense.

strlen 12y ago
Very good point: while it is common sense and true that exercise reduces ADHD, it is also common sense (but not true!) to say that sun revolves around the earth or that, in a vacuum, a feather will hit the ground after a large ball of lead. Much of Quantum Mechanics is also counter intuitive but true, while some scientific concepts can only be expressed through mathematics and have no simple intuitive explanation.
Houshalter 12y ago
Relevant, Hindsight Devalues Science: http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ >Daphna Baratz exposed college students to pairs of supposed findings, one true ("In prosperous times people spend a larger portion of their income than during a recession") and one the truth's opposite. In both sides of the pair, students rated the supposed finding as what they "would have predicted". Perfectly standard hindsight bias. >Which leads people to think they have no need for science, because they "could have predicted" that.
- otakucode 12y ago
  And if the science contradicts what their intuition tells them is correct - they disbelieve the science and cling to their intuition. Additionally, the progress of civilization can be measured most accurately by seeing which threats and dangers are removed from peoples lives. So when these people wish to trust their intuition rather than science, they are vindicated - they are protected by the umbrella of progress that intellectuals before them erected. So they now have the luxury of sitting back and decrying the costs of maintaining the infrastructure that protects them as unnecessary. This fuels the vaccine nonsense, fears of GM crops, fears of wifi signals in England, and all sorts of other similar issues. I expect these things will continue to increase until eventually major portions of the infrastructure of modern society will be dismantled or allowed to decay because no one believes they are necessary.
Dylan16807 12y ago
The 'duh' is that exercise has a positive effect on people. That it's especially beneficial toward children with ADHD is not common sense at all. What if it was less beneficial and so they needed more exercise than the average child? That would also be a perfectly reasonable result.

Was originally going to post "Well that's a big fat 'DUH!!!!'", but then I thought better. It's good to have studies to back up these sorts of things that typically get treated as common sense.

strlen 12y ago

Very good point: while it is common sense and true that exercise reduces ADHD, it is also common sense (but not true!) to say that sun revolves around the earth or that, in a vacuum, a feather will hit the ground after a large ball of lead. Much of Quantum Mechanics is also counter intuitive but true, while some scientific concepts can only be expressed through mathematics and have no simple intuitive explanation.

Houshalter 12y ago

Relevant, Hindsight Devalues Science: http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ >Daphna Baratz exposed college students to pairs of supposed findings, one true ("In prosperous times people spend a larger portion of their income than during a recession") and one the truth's opposite. In both sides of the pair, students rated the supposed finding as what they "would have predicted". Perfectly standard hindsight bias. >Which leads people to think they have no need for science, because they "could have predicted" that.

otakucode 12y ago
And if the science contradicts what their intuition tells them is correct - they disbelieve the science and cling to their intuition. Additionally, the progress of civilization can be measured most accurately by seeing which threats and dangers are removed from peoples lives. So when these people wish to trust their intuition rather than science, they are vindicated - they are protected by the umbrella of progress that intellectuals before them erected. So they now have the luxury of sitting back and decrying the costs of maintaining the infrastructure that protects them as unnecessary. This fuels the vaccine nonsense, fears of GM crops, fears of wifi signals in England, and all sorts of other similar issues. I expect these things will continue to increase until eventually major portions of the infrastructure of modern society will be dismantled or allowed to decay because no one believes they are necessary.

Dylan16807 12y ago

The 'duh' is that exercise has a positive effect on people. That it's especially beneficial toward children with ADHD is not common sense at all. What if it was less beneficial and so they needed more exercise than the average child? That would also be a perfectly reasonable result.