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This is a home server, not a cloud server: - no remote access to the console if ssh stops working - no possibility to remotely power it down/up - if the hard

This is a home server, not a cloud server: - no remote access to the console if ssh stops working - no possibility to remotely power it down/up - if the hardware dies, no possibility to restart on a different hardware remotely There's nothing wrong with a home server, I have one or three myself, but these limitations are why I move "essential" services (e.g.: email) to the cloud. Home servers are better suited for exactly this, need of high CPU, and also need of a lot of storage, for a backup server for example. I used to run everything on home servers and back them out to the cloud, but I have now started to reverse this, run the services in the cloud (cheap for small service, remotely accessible etc...), back them up to the home server (cheaper large storage, it's fine if they go offline for a few days while on holiday for example).

theonewolf 12y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8374003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8374003 Not sure if I should repeat myself a lot or not.
- mserdarsanli 12y ago
  Latter would be more preferable.
e12e 12y ago
> - no remote access to the console if ssh stops working That the depends on what you install, obviously. But more importantly, this is an intel cpu, so there is remote management, and: > - no possibility to remotely power it down/up Again, intel cpu, see below... > - if the hardware dies, no possibility to restart on a different hardware remotely That also depends: backup and automation is orthogonal to it being "cloud" or not -- not to mention with vtx support, one might set up the actual services as vms, even if just running on a single physical machine -- you would have to do off-site backup -- but then again you should be doing that anyway... But, back to the intel remote management stuff: I recently scared the willies out of myself, by setting up remote management on my laptop. Full console and serial access, optionally with dial-out over wlan support. Just from running an intel chip/bios on my laptop. That's this stuff here: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-techno... http://blog.yarda.eu/2012/09/intel-amt-quickstart-guide.html http://blog.yarda.eu/2012/09/intel-amt-quickstart-guide.html http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-pc-even-when-it-crashes/ http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology_(AMT) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Techno... (etc)

theonewolf 12y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8374003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8374003 Not sure if I should repeat myself a lot or not.

mserdarsanli 12y ago
Latter would be more preferable.

e12e 12y ago

> - no remote access to the console if ssh stops working That the depends on what you install, obviously. But more importantly, this is an intel cpu, so there is remote management, and: > - no possibility to remotely power it down/up Again, intel cpu, see below... > - if the hardware dies, no possibility to restart on a different hardware remotely That also depends: backup and automation is orthogonal to it being "cloud" or not -- not to mention with vtx support, one might set up the actual services as vms, even if just running on a single physical machine -- you would have to do off-site backup -- but then again you should be doing that anyway... But, back to the intel remote management stuff: I recently scared the willies out of myself, by setting up remote management on my laptop. Full console and serial access, optionally with dial-out over wlan support. Just from running an intel chip/bios on my laptop. That's this stuff here: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-techno... http://blog.yarda.eu/2012/09/intel-amt-quickstart-guide.html http://blog.yarda.eu/2012/09/intel-amt-quickstart-guide.html http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-pc-even-when-it-crashes/ http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology_(AMT) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Techno... (etc)