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AI that is just flat out alien (possibly involving what tv tropes calls "blue and orange morality") would be an interesting third option.

by api 12y ago

qznc 12y ago
For most of a story it probably does not matter if an intelligence (artifical or not) is hostile or alien. Just the ending is different. JARVIS is a sidekick AI. A story where the AI is the main character is either unrealistic (because the AI is too human) or lacks identification (because an AI is not human-like). The first is ok for Hollywood et al. The latter makes for bad stories and I know no examples.
- maxerickson 12y ago
  It usually isn't presented as A.I., but otherness appears in movies (and books). An example that jumps to mind is the sphere from Sphere. And it could be an intelligence, the viewer is left simply not knowing.
- tim333 12y ago
  >A story where the AI is the main character is either unrealistic (because the AI is too human)... I enjoyed Terminator 2 with Arnie as a good AI. Whether it is unrealistic we won't really know till Skynet takes over.
  - qznc 12y ago
    May I recommend a good and more realistic Terminator fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-of-Time https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-... Actually I recommend everything alexanderwales has written. He has a Frozen fanfic, which basically is about the technological singularity via magic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10327510/1/A-Bluer-Shade-of-White https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10327510/1/A-Bluer-Shade-of-Whi... I consider the suggestion that Terminator is realistic as trolling. So I will refrain from arguing against it, because there is nobody to convince.
    - eli_gottlieb 12y ago
      Since when did people start passing around the stuff from /r/rational as if it was serious literature ;-)?
- Dn_Ab 12y ago
  Yatima, an Orphan Mind of the Konishi Polisi is an excellent example of a Synthetic Intelligence as a main character. Ve's alien but you don't really notice cause the writing is so good. The remaining fields — where no changes to the seed had yet been tested, and no predictions could be made — were classified as indeterminate. Here, the one tried code, the known landmark, was shown as grey against white: a mountain peak protruding through a band of clouds which concealed everything to the east or west of it. No more detail could be resolved from afar; whatever lay beneath the clouds could only be discovered firsthand. Whenever the conceptory created an orphan, it set all the benignly mutable trait fields to valid codes chosen at random, since there were no parents to mimic or please. Then it selected a thousand indeterminate fields, and treated them in much the same fashion: throwing a thousand quantum dice to choose a random path through terra incognita. Every orphan was an explorer, sent to map uncharted territory. And every orphan was the uncharted territory itself http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/DIASPORA/01/Orphanogenesis.html http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/DIASPORA/01/Orphano...

AI that is just flat out alien (possibly involving what tv tropes calls "blue and orange morality") would be an interesting third option.

by api 12y ago

AI that is just flat out alien (possibly involving what tv tropes calls "blue and orange morality") would be an interesting third option.

qznc 12y ago

For most of a story it probably does not matter if an intelligence (artifical or not) is hostile or alien. Just the ending is different. JARVIS is a sidekick AI. A story where the AI is the main character is either unrealistic (because the AI is too human) or lacks identification (because an AI is not human-like). The first is ok for Hollywood et al. The latter makes for bad stories and I know no examples.

maxerickson 12y ago
It usually isn't presented as A.I., but otherness appears in movies (and books). An example that jumps to mind is the sphere from Sphere. And it could be an intelligence, the viewer is left simply not knowing.
tim333 12y ago
>A story where the AI is the main character is either unrealistic (because the AI is too human)... I enjoyed Terminator 2 with Arnie as a good AI. Whether it is unrealistic we won't really know till Skynet takes over.
- qznc 12y ago
  May I recommend a good and more realistic Terminator fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-of-Time https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9658524/1/Branches-on-the-Tree-... Actually I recommend everything alexanderwales has written. He has a Frozen fanfic, which basically is about the technological singularity via magic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10327510/1/A-Bluer-Shade-of-White https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10327510/1/A-Bluer-Shade-of-Whi... I consider the suggestion that Terminator is realistic as trolling. So I will refrain from arguing against it, because there is nobody to convince.
  - eli_gottlieb 12y ago
    Since when did people start passing around the stuff from /r/rational as if it was serious literature ;-)?
Dn_Ab 12y ago
Yatima, an Orphan Mind of the Konishi Polisi is an excellent example of a Synthetic Intelligence as a main character. Ve's alien but you don't really notice cause the writing is so good. The remaining fields — where no changes to the seed had yet been tested, and no predictions could be made — were classified as indeterminate. Here, the one tried code, the known landmark, was shown as grey against white: a mountain peak protruding through a band of clouds which concealed everything to the east or west of it. No more detail could be resolved from afar; whatever lay beneath the clouds could only be discovered firsthand. Whenever the conceptory created an orphan, it set all the benignly mutable trait fields to valid codes chosen at random, since there were no parents to mimic or please. Then it selected a thousand indeterminate fields, and treated them in much the same fashion: throwing a thousand quantum dice to choose a random path through terra incognita. Every orphan was an explorer, sent to map uncharted territory. And every orphan was the uncharted territory itself http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/DIASPORA/01/Orphanogenesis.html http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/DIASPORA/01/Orphano...