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Ok so this is the third time I've drafted a comment about SAP and the enterprise landscape to try explain this and all I can now think of is GRRRRR!!! To avoid

Ok so this is the third time I've drafted a comment about SAP and the enterprise landscape to try explain this and all I can now think of is GRRRRR!!! To avoid a the down votes, I should probably mention that you have to experience the enterprise landscape firsthand to be able to comprehend why it is. (That's it, 'why it is').

_pmf_ 12y ago
To give a brief impression, two things: - parts of the server side SAP components communicate via telnet - the user interface of SAP requires users to navigate between different dialogs/forms by manually entering a so-called transaction code (p.e. http://www.tcodesearch.com/ http://www.tcodesearch.com/)
- Osmium 12y ago
  I really, really do not understand that website you linked to. I feel like enterprise software is so far out of the realm of my experience that it may as well be another planet. It makes me feel like I don't understand computers anymore or what they're meant to do. I don't understand why it's necessary?
  - mikegioia 12y ago
    I wouldn't necessarily equate SAP and "enterprise software" so much. My experience with SAP's systems is a summer internship for them and 2 years at an employer where I entered time-tracking and expense info into one of their programs. The entire system is basically a database engine developed a long time ago and impossible to re-engineer now so what you're seeing is an artifact of the past. That might be why SAP and their tcodes seem so bizarre. Enterprise software suffers from its own problems but not all enterprise software looks and feels like SAP.
- omnibrain 12y ago
  Manually entering them is only the "shortcut" (at least nowadays). After logging in the user should see a User menu (tree form) filled with entries depending on his given role. If there are no entries then it's the administrator's/consutlant's/integrator's fault and not SAP's fault. Additionally you can add transaction to your Favorites by simply rightclicking the "Favorites" menu entry and clicking on Insert Transaction. You can even sort and rename your favorites.
mtmail 12y ago
I would've loved to read a long comment with background on the current enterprise landscape. Even a rant or unpopular opinion. The "GRRRR!!" itself doesn't tell me much.

_pmf_ 12y ago

To give a brief impression, two things: - parts of the server side SAP components communicate via telnet - the user interface of SAP requires users to navigate between different dialogs/forms by manually entering a so-called transaction code (p.e. http://www.tcodesearch.com/ http://www.tcodesearch.com/)

Osmium 12y ago
I really, really do not understand that website you linked to. I feel like enterprise software is so far out of the realm of my experience that it may as well be another planet. It makes me feel like I don't understand computers anymore or what they're meant to do. I don't understand why it's necessary?
- mikegioia 12y ago
  I wouldn't necessarily equate SAP and "enterprise software" so much. My experience with SAP's systems is a summer internship for them and 2 years at an employer where I entered time-tracking and expense info into one of their programs. The entire system is basically a database engine developed a long time ago and impossible to re-engineer now so what you're seeing is an artifact of the past. That might be why SAP and their tcodes seem so bizarre. Enterprise software suffers from its own problems but not all enterprise software looks and feels like SAP.
omnibrain 12y ago
Manually entering them is only the "shortcut" (at least nowadays). After logging in the user should see a User menu (tree form) filled with entries depending on his given role. If there are no entries then it's the administrator's/consutlant's/integrator's fault and not SAP's fault. Additionally you can add transaction to your Favorites by simply rightclicking the "Favorites" menu entry and clicking on Insert Transaction. You can even sort and rename your favorites.

mtmail 12y ago

I would've loved to read a long comment with background on the current enterprise landscape. Even a rant or unpopular opinion. The "GRRRR!!" itself doesn't tell me much.