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Imagine where Germany would be today if the US would not have been stealing trade secret, patented designs and other stuff over the last 70+ years.
by sauere 12y ago
Imagine where Germany would be today if the US would not have been stealing trade secret, patented designs and other stuff over the last 70+ years.
- happyscrappy 12y agoIt is too bad they are so helpless and spineless, maybe they will wake up someday.
- sauere 12y agoYeah uhm, you might not want to cause any trouble if you have 200+ US army installations in your country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_installations_in_Germany http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_inst...
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- spain 12y agoTo be honest, it did work out pretty well for them. They failed because of strategic reasons.
- logicchains 12y agoOr incredibly bad decision-making on the part of a possibly barbituate-crazed leader; "let's break our pact with previously-friendly Russia and invade them, learning nothing from Napoleon's extreme failure in Russia. Fighting a war on two fronts is a great idea!" Who knows; if Germany hadn't gone to war with Russia it's possible that they'd still have today much of the land they took in 1939-1941.
- mercurial 12y agoThat's possible. On the other hand, who would trust Stalin as far as he could throw him? Ironically enough, the same strategic mistake did in another megalomaniac dictator more than a century before. Don't start a land war in Russia, unless you're Mongols.
- TeMPOraL 12y agoOr maybe they would be a Soviet state today. It's not that Russia didn't have plans to backstab Hitler.
- stefan_kendall3 12y agoGermany started WW1 because it could not let Russia mobilize. You leave your precious flank open, and suddenly you start speaking Soviet, as mentioned.
- rmc 12y agoUm... Last time that happened it was pretty horrible...
- pluma 12y agoThat doesn't seem to stop anyone else from copying the entire invading-countries-under-false-premises thing, though, sadly enough.
- factorizer 12y agoThinking in terms of nations is something for peasants. The ruling elites don't care about nations. They care about class war. And they are winning it.
- spain 12y agoThis is the most pretentious comment I've seen in a while on HN, congratulations. I suggest you come back when you've learned a bit of history.
- IsTom 12y agoIt's their victory that they convinced you that they don't want just to squeeze everyone else dry.
- pkinsky 12y agoNot all war is class war, only most. Unless you think the ruling elite of, say, Israel and Saudi Arabia are on friendly terms.
- WildUtah 12y agoSurely the Israeli and Saudi ruling elites would never be working together. [0] [0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative
- Theodores 12y agoGermany is doing very nicely when it comes to GDP, balance of trade, making progress on renewables and plenty of other metrics. The USA? Don't they just print money? The kids at school that work out their own homework go on to do well. The kids that copy from others don't really succeed too brilliantly. Those that copy are a step behind. In terms of innovation, I don't see American goods as anywhere near as polished as their German counterparts. I would take the lowest spec. German car over any American car in current production without hesitation. The same applies to white goods and even cakes!
- madengr 12y agoYeah, but the lowest spec German cars are not made in Germany; Mexican VWs. Can I even buy a German made car in the US, other than a Porsche? Last I had was a VW Corrado. There are quality things made in the US, just not many domestic brand cars.
- twoodfin 12y agoMy wife's base model VW Tiguan was made in Wolfsburg, and it's a terrific car, albeit having already been recalled twice in two years.
- jacquesm 12y agoRecalls are a sign that a manufacturer takes its reputation serious and has the interest of the customer at heart. Beware of the car manufacturer that never has recalls.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y ago>The USA? Don't they just print money? It isn't a mere house of cards; we bully developing countries for their resources, too. >The kids at school that work out their own homework go on to do well. This is true, to some extent, but it isn't a guarantee. >The kids that copy from others don't really succeed too brilliantly. Those that copy are a step behind. Are you implying some kind of meritocracy exists? Because I would disagree. Some of the kids that cheat seem to do quite well, much to our collective detriment. In terms of innovation, I don't see American goods as anywhere near as polished as their German counterparts. I agree. IMO some of that is a deliberate compromise between durability and cost, and some of it is probably just industrialized sloth and rent seeking. We do still have lots of innovation here, but IMO we've lost that edge, and are doing nothing that would help us regain it, or even remain competitive. > I would take the lowest spec. German car over any American car in current production without hesitation. The same applies to white goods and even cakes! You might be interested to know that I have two German (and two American) cars in my drive right now. I'm happier with the 1982 model though than I am with the 1999; but even with their problems they are superior to their American "equivalents". German cakes? You've gone a step too far!
- atmosx 12y agoThats a joke right? Imagine where Germany would be today if. Marshall had no plan for Germany after the WW2.
- rhino369 12y agoImagine where Germany would be if the USA didn't stop the Soviets from raping them out of existence in 1945.