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Ask HN: What are alternatives to Bootstrap?
A lot of my web dev friends complain that the websites are all starting to look the same because of Bootstrap. I was curious if there are other tools people use for styling? I know you could do custom CSS but I'm looking for other plugins or stylesheets that are commonly used.
- MalcolmDiggs 12y agoFoundation by Zurb is probably the biggest head-on competitor. On the lighter side (codebase wise) getskeleton.com is useful. It handles the responsive stuff without adding much other styling. Google recently put out Web Starter kit as well: developers.google.com/web/starter-kit/
- Terpaholic 12y agoFoundation is extremely useful, and feels professional. It does less of the styling for you (think less default css themes), but overall stands toe to toe with Bootstrap. If you've ever found yourself fighting with Bootstrap (like the resizing height responsive menus), Foundation is a great alternative. Would definitely recommend Foundation in a heartbeat.
- dylanhassinger 12y agoPureCSS is a minimal framework by Yahoo, i think it looks neat: http://purecss.io http://purecss.io
- xpto123 12y agoPure CSS is a great choice, it's just a minimum 4k of CSS, no Javascript is needed. It's a 'Bring Your Own Javascript' solution. It provides a css reset for uniform look and feel across browsers, a responsive CSS-only grid, styling for forms, buttons, tables, and it's themable via an online GUI, where a whole theme can be derived from a primary color.
- atburrow 12y agoI really like this choice. It seems to give a very lightweight feel to a website. It gives enough minimalism to where if you were to use it, it might not have the "Bootstrap" effect being referred in this discussion.
- walterbell 12y ago> "Unlike other frameworks, Pure's design is unopinionated, minimal and flat. We believe that it's much easier to add new CSS rules than to overwrite existing rules." Sample layouts look great, thanks for posting. Long live "unopinionated" frameworks.
- JohnMunsch 12y agoI think Pure is attractive as well, but I wouldn't look to Yahoo to do any more work with it. After they killed a well known project like YUI, I'd be amazed if Pure gets five minutes more work done on it ever.
- cotsog 12y agoSemantic UI: UI is the vocabulary of the web. http://semantic-ui.com/ http://semantic-ui.com/
- illyism 12y agoOne of the best in my opinion. I use it for literally everything. It's really versatile in the way that it doesn't force you to use templates. The new beta (http://beta.semantic-ui.com/ http://beta.semantic-ui.com/) version looks really promising as well, it's made to work with themes but it's a different way of working than the previous version. You get more control in building from less.
- swanson 12y agoI played around with the Bourbon + Neat + Bitters + Refills "stack" recently and I enjoyed it. Definitely not as "drop-in ready" as Bootstrap, but seemed like a good foundation to build on. http://bourbon.io/ http://bourbon.io/ http://neat.bourbon.io/ http://neat.bourbon.io/ http://bitters.bourbon.io/ http://bitters.bourbon.io/ http://refills.bourbon.io/ http://refills.bourbon.io/
- jparishy 12y agoI second this! I've been doing some FE work lately and they're my goto now.
- UnoriginalGuy 12y agoThat's because "everyone" uses the same basic Bootstrap themes. If you use Bootstrap for layout and responsive UI you'll be fine, it is just when you are the nth site to use the default theme with the same damn default navigation that it gets a little cringe. So in my opinion you're asking the wrong question, the right question is: "How do I make my Bootstrap site not FEEL like every single other Bootstrap site on the internet?" If you're willing to pay for high quality third party themes it is definitely possible to get something that nobody would call a Bootstrap powered site unless they happened to look at the raw code. Just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater when all you really want is to look fresh, original, and on-point. It can be done with Bootstrap.
- rspeer 12y agoWhere do you find these high-quality themes? Every Bootstrap theme I've seen that doesn't look like Bootstrap has been gaudy.
- alexgaribay 12y agoI've gotten some from here. https://wrapbootstrap.com https://wrapbootstrap.com
- jvvlimme 12y agoYou can find loads on http://www.themeforest.com http://www.themeforest.com
- cblock811 12y agoI'm asking so I can do web analysis on a 55mil homepage corpus we have to see the distribution of styling templates/plugins/tools. I might do a heatmap after and show where these companies are that use the technologies mentioned. Just a for-fun project. I happen to love Bootstrap as a nice V1 for a site's design.
- brickcap 12y agoI like simple grid. http://thisisdallas.github.io/Simple-Grid/ http://thisisdallas.github.io/Simple-Grid/
- franciscop 12y agoPureCSS. I'm also doing a basic system based on this, but it's still few hours away to be ready. I'll ask for feedback around HN soon though.
- sjs382 12y agoIf all bootstrap sites look the same, that's the fault of the developers/designers (or likely the lack of a designer), not bootstrap. Bootstrap should be used as a base, not as a theme. That said, if you're going to use base bootstrap with no customizations for your project documentation or something like that, more power to you...
- cblock811 12y agoExactly. I'm just curious to find the distribution of styling tools. I want to show how much of the web IS bootstrap so I can tell some designers I know to pound sand when they complain about it all.
- rcarmo 12y agoWell, I use http://ink.sapo.pt http://ink.sapo.pt (full disclosure: I work there.) It's pretty complete and is constantly updated -- and besides including a battle-tested JS library of its own, it is evolving toward eschewing some of the "usual" dependencies. One of the key reasons I use it outside work is that it targets _generic_ sites and can be customized and/or pulled in piecemeal if you take the time to build your own version.
- zuck9 12y agoIt's strange no one mentioned http://bootswatch.com http://bootswatch.com
- pairing 12y agoZurb Foundation is a common alternative to Bootstrap: http://foundation.zurb.com/ http://foundation.zurb.com/
- garysvpa 12y agoFoundation Zimit InK HTML KickStart Kickstrap Pure