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No, that's a problem with your IT department being stuck about a decade behind.

arjie 12y ago
Some may see your comment as flippant, but it is very accurate. Didn't MS shut off support for that combination of OS and Browser? If so, their IT department is exposing them to security trouble. If so, their competence is in question.
- staplesowns 12y ago
  Companies can pay extra for XP support even after MSFT's EOL.
  - Isofarro 12y ago
    Or keep using it anyway. Most organisations don't actually receive direct Microsoft support/assistance when they run into problems anyway. So Microsoft ending XP support is practically meaningless. At worst, it allows independent software vendors a small market for regular repeat business. At best, people just keep using XP the same way they've been doing for years.
- toxican 12y ago
  I've never understood the "well we have to keep IE6 because of this one obscure program" as the excuse to why IT departments force their users to use IE6. Keep IE6 for that one obscure, poorly-made program. Give then a copy of Firefox or Chrome to use for everything else. I realize for a lot of users that's more choice than they can handle, but those that know better must be tortured by that awful lack of choice.
  - pbhjpbhj 12y ago
    I've never used one but I understand there are plugins that load a particular URL in an IEframe. So there's no need for the user to know that they need to use IE for one thing and FF/Chrome for another.
  - acdha 12y ago
    It's actually worse than that: Microsoft gives you free integrated desktop virtualization (MED-V) and, in IE 11 they added an Enterprise Mode which works very well with antique sites. Both can be seamlessly integrated using group policy so a user clicks on the blue e, uses the web as normal and when they hit http://creaky-internal-app.example.com http://creaky-internal-app.example.com the experience seamlessly jumps back a decade. This isn't being conservative about upgrades. This about an IT department refusing to learn to do anything they weren't doing in 2000.
walshemj 12y ago
No your giving publishers a lazy get out - if you actually work for a large publisher online you would be shocked by how non technical and sclerotic they are - makes The laundry files bureaucracy seem fast and responsive :-(
marrs 12y ago
How is that radmuzom's fault? And more to the point, why should the web be inaccessible to someone a decade behind?
- acdha 12y ago
  It's not the users’ fault but if nothing else his IT department is being recklessly negligent by choosing to block security updates.
  - mirkules 12y ago
    Whatever the IT policy is is not really relevant. There is a big difference between ending or not providing support for older browsers (passively), and actively deciding to limit functionality solely on the basis of having an outdated browser. Maybe the new search page uses features only found in the newest browsers. But since we have little details to go on (apart from the employee's canned response of "we are constantly updating functionality"), I'm skeptical that in fact they did this just for the sake of doing it "for the users' own good". That is wrong, imho
J_Darnley 12y ago
No, the issue is that no newer Windows OS is actually an upgrade.

arjie 12y ago

Some may see your comment as flippant, but it is very accurate. Didn't MS shut off support for that combination of OS and Browser? If so, their IT department is exposing them to security trouble. If so, their competence is in question.

staplesowns 12y ago
Companies can pay extra for XP support even after MSFT's EOL.
- Isofarro 12y ago
  Or keep using it anyway. Most organisations don't actually receive direct Microsoft support/assistance when they run into problems anyway. So Microsoft ending XP support is practically meaningless. At worst, it allows independent software vendors a small market for regular repeat business. At best, people just keep using XP the same way they've been doing for years.
toxican 12y ago
I've never understood the "well we have to keep IE6 because of this one obscure program" as the excuse to why IT departments force their users to use IE6. Keep IE6 for that one obscure, poorly-made program. Give then a copy of Firefox or Chrome to use for everything else. I realize for a lot of users that's more choice than they can handle, but those that know better must be tortured by that awful lack of choice.
- pbhjpbhj 12y ago
  I've never used one but I understand there are plugins that load a particular URL in an IEframe. So there's no need for the user to know that they need to use IE for one thing and FF/Chrome for another.
- acdha 12y ago
  It's actually worse than that: Microsoft gives you free integrated desktop virtualization (MED-V) and, in IE 11 they added an Enterprise Mode which works very well with antique sites. Both can be seamlessly integrated using group policy so a user clicks on the blue e, uses the web as normal and when they hit http://creaky-internal-app.example.com http://creaky-internal-app.example.com the experience seamlessly jumps back a decade. This isn't being conservative about upgrades. This about an IT department refusing to learn to do anything they weren't doing in 2000.

walshemj 12y ago

No your giving publishers a lazy get out - if you actually work for a large publisher online you would be shocked by how non technical and sclerotic they are - makes The laundry files bureaucracy seem fast and responsive :-(

marrs 12y ago

How is that radmuzom's fault? And more to the point, why should the web be inaccessible to someone a decade behind?

acdha 12y ago
It's not the users’ fault but if nothing else his IT department is being recklessly negligent by choosing to block security updates.
- mirkules 12y ago
  Whatever the IT policy is is not really relevant. There is a big difference between ending or not providing support for older browsers (passively), and actively deciding to limit functionality solely on the basis of having an outdated browser. Maybe the new search page uses features only found in the newest browsers. But since we have little details to go on (apart from the employee's canned response of "we are constantly updating functionality"), I'm skeptical that in fact they did this just for the sake of doing it "for the users' own good". That is wrong, imho

J_Darnley 12y ago

No, the issue is that no newer Windows OS is actually an upgrade.